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Sorry about continuing this pointless discussion, just saying that the drivers of GS1000 and HF2 are indeed mounted in much the same way.
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Originally Posted by some1x View Post
Well, it is not quite like that. RS-1 and RS-2's drivers are in plastic enclosures glued to the wooden housing. The only difference is RS-1/2's housing is one piece wood.
I don't have PIX handy of the RS series, but I "believe" they are mounted identically to the GS. The driver is mounted bare in those cups like this PIC which shows a Plastic driver holder set alongside the GS1K.
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Here you have the Bare drivers in their natural habitat in Brooklyn, that black ring you see on the RS/GS is the edge of the driver.
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post #1098 of 2859
Both the RS-1 and the RS-2 are mounted the same way as the GS1000 and the HF-2.
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The main thing I'm curious about is where people would place this in terms if the current Grado line-up. Should I jump for the HF-2 when I already have the SR-225? Also, would the cost of the HF-2 be better saved up for the RS-2/RS-1 purely in terms of sound quality?

Obviously the imminent exclusivity of the HF-2 is a weighing factor in purchasing these 'phones, but for me, the money-for-SQ factor still reigns supreme.

Here's hoping for detailed impressions and comparisons soon coming!
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Heard them everywhere at CanJam but sorry guys, really didn't like them - very bright, not much detail, not much bass unless amped with something MUCH more expensive. Much preferred the HF1s...
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Heard them everywhere at CanJam but sorry guys, really didn't like them - very bright, not much detail, not much bass unless amped with something MUCH more expensive. Much preferred the HF1s...
interesting...thanks for the impression. can you tell us what amps you listened with? any that sounded better than others?
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Too many to mention - the only amps I could bear them with were B22, Zana Deux and Woo WA6SE. Even then, all those amps did was tame them and give them some semblance of balance. You could still tell the headphones were then bottlenecking the amps' potential.

They are going to take some insane system matching at lower price points.

I really wanted to like them...but um, hated them.
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1Up, I believe Grado sound is not of your liking. Even so nice to know your opinion.
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Did you try them without any?

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Too many to mention - the only amps I could bear them with were B22, Zana Deux and Woo WA6SE. Even then, all those amps did was tame them and give them some semblance of balance. You could still tell the headphones were then bottlenecking the amps' potential.

They are going to take some insane system matching at lower price points.

I really wanted to like them...but um, hated them.
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That seems a strange reaction when everyone else has mentioned that they are more balanced than most grados. Have you heard grados in the past? Either way, thanks for the opinions/impressions.
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post
Well, no. It's just going nowhere, just like all the other discussions about Grado Drivers. The housing is obvious.

If you have an axe to grind with me from the Zero thread, take it to PM please.

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You think too much of yourself. If I had something to say regarding another thread, guess what I'd do? I'd post in that thread. It seems you've taken an interest in discussing the drivers anyway.

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Heard them everywhere at CanJam but sorry guys, really didn't like them - very bright, not much detail, not much bass unless amped with something MUCH more expensive. Much preferred the HF1s...
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Originally Posted by 1UP View Post
Too many to mention - the only amps I could bear them with were B22, Zana Deux and Woo WA6SE. Even then, all those amps did was tame them and give them some semblance of balance. You could still tell the headphones were then bottlenecking the amps' potential.

They are going to take some insane system matching at lower price points.

I really wanted to like them...but um, hated them.
Yeah I was going to say, what do you think of other Grados? Do you have any, or listened to any in good conditions? (not on the CanJam floor) Perhaps they just generally aren't to your liking.
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Did you try them without any?
boomana posted in another thread that she was listening to them straight out of her macbook pro...and they sounded very good. that's only one opinion, but that's the only one i've seen so far about being unamped.
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I had and loved SR60s for years. Was BLOWN AWAY by the HP1000s from the meet; they would be my grail. Thought the 225s and HF1s were really good, too.

Thought the RS1s were very inconsistent, the GS1Ks very boring, and didn't spend much time with the PS1000s.

Now, I defer to other members' longer-experience of Grados, so remember these are just my impressions of cans that can't even have been burned in fully.

However, my feeling is there are two main arcs of Grados - the one I prefer is the SR60-225/HF1/RS series of sound.
Then there's the SR325 / HF2 / PS1000 type sound

With the GS1K being left out cause it's a Sennheiser wannabe. And the HP1000s sitting in another universe of kickass altogether.

I'd place the HF2 as an alternative to the RS2/1 if you prefer the SR325 type presentation...but they'll be ruthless of subpar partnering equipment and source material; ruthless meaning unforgiving, but not necessarily that they will scale...doesn't seem a great proposition to me at the price...
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Was BLOWN AWAY by the HP1000s from the meet; they would be my grail.
They really are amazing aren't they? I'm glad you got to try one out.

I feel very fortunate to have one in my collection. They just effortlessly produce music in the truest sense of the word.
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post
Disagree,
The driver is mounted in a holder, either plastic or wood, or the cup itself. The RS-1, RS-2, and GS-1000 drivers are mounted directly in the cup without a driver holder.

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Sorry about continuing this pointless discussion, just saying that the drivers of GS1000 and HF2 are indeed mounted in much the same way.

The driver is not 'mounted in plastic', I would hesitate to describe it like that. Their housing is either wood or plastic, and as this is wood, I would venture to say that are of RS / GS / PS pedigree, with the material for the mini cups most likely coming from the SR325, since of course you wouldn't / can't know.
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