Originally Posted by indydieselnut
I guess I'm confused about the "shaved 325i" hypothesis, not because I don't believe that it's a possible explanation...but just because I don't get why it matters. So John took a bunch of 325is housings, chucked them up on the lathe, turned down the outer surface, put a relief for the mahogany inner housings, glued the two together, put who knows what driver in there, etched a new model on the exterior, and put the new cable in there...so? That sounds like a new headphone to me. Or, I should say, as new as any other Grado headphone. As an owner of GS1000i's, 325is', SR80i's, and a twelve-year-old pair of SR60's, I've never felt that Grado represented "state-of-the-art" design or construction, but I've felt like the sound is state-of-the-art.
I'll bet the HF-2's sound great and I'll bet I keep my 325is' because my hypothesis is that they will have different strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe I just got soured by the endless prattle in the ALO Amphora review thread. And yes, I still like walnut
no, you're right. it doesn't matter...and doesn't make sense. to say that it's a "shaved down 325" is to make the case that it isn't as luxurious or top-knotch as some people want to think. it's no ps-1000 or ps-1 because it's really just a modified 325 with wood housings and different etchings.
all this talk about it being a "mini ps-1000" has been taken out of context. jude and todd have mentioned that it sounds like a ps-1000, perhaps not as refined. if les_garten has to "be honest about what he's getting," the only one he's trying to convince is himself, because most people here, if they've done their homework and read the various threads, most importantly, jude's original post, they know what they're getting.
many were happy for this opportunity for a limited-edition headphone, especially those who were not around for the hf-1. unseen, we were willing to buy these because of what the hf-1 brought, because of what jude and todd said about them, because of the allure of a limited-edition headphone, because it supports head-fi, etc. seen, the reviews have been very favorable, and most think this is a very good deal.
i have no issues with thinking about how something was made and what the manufacturing process might be like, etc. but that's not what's going on here...to say that "it's just a cut-down 325" is trying to make the claim that we're not really getting a "baby ps-1000," rather a tricked-up 325. it's a statement that tries to claim that we're really not getting that much of a value here because it's made from a product that's cheaper than the $429 that we're paying. i don't get it, to be honest. and maybe i'm too sensitive about this, which is probably true...but it just rubs me the wrong way, as did much of the grumbling that ensued after the hf1 came out.