spuddler-

It seems you got confused earlier between warranties and return policies. Maybe you don't understand the subject at hand here which seems to be a law that provides UK residents with an unconditional right to cancel and return goods within a certain time if they buy online in the UK. If it's a law, it's a law. I found this in a Google search The UK's Distance Selling Regulations | OUT-LAW.COM, you might want to read it, the cancellation period is clear and it's even extended in some instances. Wish we had something like that here in the US.


Now back on topic-
@Ihatepopupads.... My X1000 may be in my hands as early as tomorrow! I'll post impressions once I've got some music transferred to the player, have a charge, and get some idea of the sound signature I'm hearing.

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Yes !!! Thats good news indeed Can't wait to hear you impressions, it took a little while for the sound to sink in for me. I think just because I've never heard it quite presented like this. I do wish we had a law like that here also, it would make buying from some online vendors more assuring.

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Good to hear! the more impressions the merrier

SQ

After borrowing a touch 2nd gen the other day, splashing out on a new DAP seemed a bit of a risk as I thought the touch sounded plain nasty.

Using my HD580's, my initial impressions of the touch was a harsh and cheap sounding player, lacking in resolution and dynamics, it put me right off of them.

The Sony X is a leap of faith and to be honest I wasn't expecting it to sound any better than the touch, different maybe but not better.
So after a quick charge I fired it up. Wow, the screen is great, beautifully crisp and vibrant. So far so good.

Straight in to the sound settings I turned off the gizmo's and left the eq flat. Now the worrying bit.
Back in with the HD580's, and spinning up some 80's funk my first feeling was relief.....
After literally 5 seconds I knew it would be ok, presented with a sound slightly on the warm side of neutral, (just the way I like it)
a sparkling top end and deeper tighter bass than I was expecting. It put a silly grin on me chops......

On further adjustment this thing really shines, I'm over the moon with the sq.






Ease of use

The supplied CD hasn't even been opened, I've no idea what's on it. Simply drag and drop your files into the music folder and Bob's your uncle.
Navigating is a breeze, but I haven't delved too far yet nor have I tried any of the browsing stuff.






Build Quality.

Fantastic. This thing feels weighty and solid, you get the feeling that if it's dropped it won't come to much harm.

I know some people are asking about the textured sides, well they only add to the quality feel the unit has. No picture can do it justice,
it feels great in the hand.











This is my first walkman in many years, it may be pricey but it feels and sounds every pennies worth.

If great sound quality is your priority the Sony X is a very safe bet, I wouldn't touch anything else. Pun intended.

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Sorry to quote the entire post, but I must say: "Fantastic post, Ms. Soozie!".

Thanks for this.

Ooops, I meant Neeley - they look like great photos, but you need to resize the pics so we can see them without scrolling to the side

They've gone off the page.

EDIT: It looks like you're impressed by it, oh, and your close-ups really highlight how beautiful it is, and it is!

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Nice pictures there. Glad you are enjoying it. I see you are a Bear McCreary fan. Love his BSG music and can't wait for his season 4 OST.

So now that the X1000 is out, the Touch 2G is a "harsh, cheap sounding" player by comparison. Doubtful. I can see favoring the Sony, but c'mon, give us a break. And as good as the Sony HP out might sound, the Touch offers a line-out option for another way to get some pretty nice SQ (granted, it requires a decent LOD cable and an external amp).

I know, it's Neeley's opinion, as is everything on this forum. But I also know the Kool-Aid is flowing hereabouts. That characterization of the Touch 2G just isn't borne out by the prevailing view. What other DAPs have you heard then Neeley? What are you upgrading from? Just curious.

And Neely, you need to learn to resize those photos.

I know Soozieq has a Touch 2G (I think) and clearly favors the Sony, but Sooz, does the Touch all of a sudden sound like a "harsh, cheap" machine by comparison?

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tstarn06-
Wow, way to basically say Neeley must not be hearing things correctly even though he just gave direct observations. No Koolaid being drunk there, and no need to rain on his parade since you're not planning to buy it anyway.

As a point of reference, I was just doing some back to back comparing of my Sony A829 to my iPhone 3G, and was just thinking that the warmth and soundstage of the A829 did the same thing to the iPhone that Neeley described, and that's not even taking into account the already known additional bump in SQ when you step up to the X1000.

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I agree that the touch 2G deserves a bit more credit than is given around these circles but bare in mind the fact that he was using 300Ohms HD580 when he came to such a conclusion. I was gonna suggest that most portables wouldn't be able to drive those phones properly, and making an assessment of the touch's SQ based on such "demanding" phones might not be fair, but he sure seems to be happy with the way the X1000 drives them.

@ Neeley Nice pics and mini review
What volume do you use on the X1000 in order to get a respectable volume output from the HD580

Hi all, after reading my way through here right from page one, I purchased the X1060 which arrived last Tuesday. I'm full of praise for the Sony, so won't repeat many of the posts saying how good it is. I would like to ask if anyone is having trouble with the You Tube functionality. I have connected to my home wifi network and the player shows signal strenght at 100%. Why can't I view a video on You Tube? The max I can view is about 30 seconds! The grey 'buffer' line seems to stop moving after about a minute and when the green view line catches up, it freezes and I can't watch any more. This happens on EVERY video. Can anybody help? Thanks.

Hey guys i went to my local sony centre and the salesman let me demo the sony x1000 . it is very sleek and the response from the touchscreen was surprisingly good!! .And the sound quality was awesome. i just cant afford it, will wait till the price drops .. anyone selling theirs for secondhand lol..

Oh dear, I didn't mean to upset anyone with my comments about the touch. Apologies if you feel offended.

Some of the pics have been re sized, they should all fit on the page now, although there not quite as clear....

Ok I'll try and answer some questions. I'm no hifi expert but not a newb either. Over the years equipment has come and gone from what hifi specials to audionote valve amp kits. My main obsession now is car hifi (not the chavvy - max power type) Check out talkaudio.co.uk. Current headphone rig is 13 year old HD580's, Little Dot MKIV SE and an E-mu 0404 sound card.

My last walkman was a sansui cassette player (don't laugh) so in some ways I have no preconceptions with the quality of Daps, up until two weeks ago I'd never heard an ipod before.

With the ipod touch I used the HD580's and portable px100's, with both headphones the sound seemed unrefined, hard and it quickly became fatiguing. I so much wanted to like it but no sound adjustment could take away the player's characteristics.

Sure it's a sexy device but after living with it for the weekend my conclusion is it's all style over substance. It's sound is nothing to write home about. That's why I wasn't expecting too much from the Sony X.

Both the touch and the Sony X drove the HD580's fine, the touch seemed a bit louder and the linearity of both players remained the same throughout their volume levels.

Not meaning to upset anyone but the Sony X is in a different league to the touch where sq is concerned. It's an absolute pleasure to listen to...

Oh the supplied headphones aren't great, they don't do the player justice..

Neil.

Neeley-
Glad to read your comments about the Sony X. Don't worry about offending anyone with your comments. None should be taken from them as they're genuine direct observations.

I look forward to hearing the X very soon hopefully. I observed similar differences between my iPhone 3G (which I've read sounds the same as the Touch 2G) and my Sony A829. The iPhone doesn't sound 'bad' per se, but in comparison it loses out in refinement and ultimate bass depth to the 829. Going back to the iPhone after the Sony I notice the highs seem a bit more processed, borderline harsh, and things seem just more compressed overall. That's the best way I can describe it. I'd imagine the difference will be even bigger from the X to the iPhone. I will say that the iPhone is a huge step forward in SQ from previous iPod's I've owned.

Congrats on your purchase, and keep enjoying. I'll be posting my impressions early this coming week I hope.

Welcome to Head-Fi btw.....

Every dap that I've owned or have sounds a little "flat" and boring compared to the X with the exception of the hiss-fest kenwood media gig I had. It sounds very close to the touched amped with the mustang, better on the warmth though. I can see how the touch's sound would seem inferior to the X and somewhat boring, even thought the touch has great specs. Resolution and detail the X eats the touch up, the touch sounds "digital" compared to the sony.

Having loved the touch's sound I really couldn't go back unless it was amped through the LO. The only place where I think ( well I know)the touch beats the X is a wider soundstage. The X is just so musical , dynamic and engaging.

I'm gushing I know, but I'm really happy to have such high quality sound in such a small package without an external amp. Just don't buy it thinking your getting a PDA type device like the touch, cause like many have said the browser and picture viewer are miles behind the touch. Youtube is nice though.