HiFiMAN HM-801 Portable Player / DAC Review: Part One of Two - Page 40

Originally Posted by JaZZ 

In which respect doesn't it sound good? How can a software equalizer sound bad actually?
 

Originally Posted by dfkt 

Why did you say it doesn't have an EQ?

Originally Posted by JaZZ 

Because of HiFiMan's well-known statement:

 

Originally Posted by Nankai 

EQ or other sound enhancements should not appear in HiFiMAN because artificial is not hifi.

 

What else should it mean?

Again: In which respect doesn't the HM-801's equalizer sound good? How can a software equalizer sound bad actually? (I noticed that you have edited your post to remove these questions. Why that?)

Silence.

(It's not that I'm too unimportant to dfkt, else he wouldn't have edited his last post above three times to finally remove my quoted questions. Maybe they are somehow too troublesome to him or the boycott is due to personal antipathy. After all he never answered any of my – six or seven – questions in this part of the forum.)
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I am wondering how does the DAC part of HM 801 compare to other DACs (especially,  TPA Buffalo, Stello DA100 and AMB gamma 2)? Since I have a HM 801 coming my way, I like to know what will be the next dac on my wish list?

Originally Posted by udauda 

FYI a Japanese headphile named ソノベ measured his HM-801 too - and he doesn't seem to be very happy with the result. 

Can somebody provide info on the HM-801's custom equalizer (or the corresponding frequency bands, resp.)? – The linked graphs don't look too promising.
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JaZZ, my HM-801's custom equalizer (+/- 10 db user adjustable) has: 60 Hz, 300 Hz, 1kHz, 3kHz,6kHz. My HM 801 is version 0.11 (date 01/11/2010, dont know what the version/date mean though, maybe firmware). I like HM 801 as a protable all-in-one package however I am not expecting too much from it (I dont expect it to outperform full-size equipments with similar price). I used the HM 801 with +3 db at 60Hz, TO MY HEARS, it sounds good with or w/o EQ.

Thank you! – 30 instead of 60 Hz and 16 instead of 6 kHz would have been more useful.

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Originally Posted by JaZZ 

Silence.

 

(It's not that I'm too unimportant to dfkt, else he wouldn't have edited his last post above three times to finally remove my quoted questions. Maybe they are somehow too troublesome to him or the boycott is due to personal antipathy. After all he never answered any of my – six or seven – questions in this part of the forum.)
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I see you edited your post.

What kind of nincompoop are you? You don't know the difference between a good and bad EQ? But you proclaim your opinion about the differences between some MP3 player's outputs loudly?

Gawd, I should waste my time on more important tasks. This is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by dfkt 

What kind of nincompoop are you? You don't know the difference between a good and bad EQ?

I had to consult the dictionary about the «nincompoop» – see how dumb I am!    Back to a more intelligent conversation: I would have liked to know why exactly you consider the HM-801's equalizer bad sounding. I have heard bad sounding analogue equalizers (and own one myself), but not software equalizers. So my dumb question again: In what respect does the HM-801's equalizer sound bad to you?

Personally I find the frequency bands relatively unpractical, but that's not the same as bad sounding. Of course I'm speaking of the custom equalizer, not the presets.

So give your ass a kick and answer my question!   (As friendly as you can or will.)
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Originally Posted by Bojamijams 

I'm loving mine... its my portable device, my home dac+amp (fed with coaxial from computer), it does it all better then anything I've had..

still though.. I'm anxiously awaiting info on the high-end amp module cause I know its holding back the full potential of the rest of the system. Fang however.. is not very forthcoming with info.. whether boards, PM, email, whatever.

Is the amp good with full-sized headphones too?  If I got the Hifiman I would have to listen to my Grado HF2's with it unamped, as I would have to sell my iBasso D10 to fund this mighty purchase.  Is the internal amp comperable to the D10 or should I try to find a way to keep it?

Better then the D10 amp, IMO.  The standard amp will drive the grados quite nicely.

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Originally Posted by Bojamijams 

Better then the D10 amp, IMO.  The standard amp will drive the grados quite nicely.

Even the HD800s, now IEM's the amp is a no-no.

The standard was fine for my JH-13's albeit very close to the limit. There was a very fine line between too loud and just loud enough to correct channel imbalance. With the lower gain on the new ST modules, I think most IEM owners will be happy with the standard amp.  I do enjoy the sound of the GAME module over the ST module though, so thats another plus.

Originally Posted by dfkt 

I can't be bothered to repeat my post here....

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Originally Posted by dfkt 

Gawd, I should waste my time on more important tasks. This is ridiculous.

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I don't really know you, dfkt, but with comments like these, it makes you seem a bit

snooty, and it seems like you're bothered participating in these threads. You could 

be the nicest guy in the world, but these statements are a bit "standoff-ish".

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Originally Posted by Bojamijams 

The standard was fine for my JH-13's albeit very close to the limit. There was a very fine line between too loud and just loud enough to correct channel imbalance. With the lower gain on the new ST modules, I think most IEM owners will be happy with the standard amp.  I do enjoy the sound of the GAME module over the ST module though, so thats another plus.

The standard and GAME amp with my single end TWaged up JH13 Pro's gave me a very treble oriented sound with a average soundstage. There was no weight to the music and the vocals were unnatural. Through the Protector via line out the HiFiMAN has been set free.
 

Maybe this is a stupid question or has been answered before but I want to know, what is the best this hifiman hm-801 or the nationite s:flo 2?

I have to start by thanking Fang of Head Direct for loaning me an HM-801. I have a long history of using products from Head Direct and first met Fang face to face at the 2008 Can Jam although I had exchanged emails and purchased items from him before. Currently I am listening to the various jazz artists loaded via FLAC on the HM-801 using a Yuin OK1 or a HiFiMAN RE-252. I am going to be brief tonight since I must go to sleep so I can get up early and go to work tomorrow so I can buy more toys!

Amazed is the best word to describe the sound out of the HM-801. It is engaging, with excellent micro-detail retrieval, very musical and engaging w/ lots of extension in both directions. I hope to be able to devote more time and be able to add more to the discussions on this wonderful sounding unit. Cheers.