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post #751 of 903
Whatever the reasons for this firmware encryption nuisance, the least fortunate of us might also have other driver related problems...

Namely, I'm "old" user who started with 1.0.3.2 drivers at the time and was really enthusiastic about the device (Monitor 01 USD).

Then came the 1.0.5.0 and the firmware encryption. Went through the .dat mailing and encrypted .key upgrading procedure without problems. It took less than two days to receive the key from Musiland's support.

Subsequent 1.0.5.2 and 1.0.6.0 were further driver improvements and I even participated in problem reporting and solution suggesting.

Then it came 1.0.7.0. My 01 USD exhibited a strange problem: no matter what I tried, the APU driver module was not installing or loading properly (APU: 0.0 in Musiland's Control Panel) and there was no music at all. I had to fall back to older drivers. I've reported the problem and Musiland guys from their support forum said they will look into it. It was November 2009.

I patiently waited for a new driver version which recently came out (January 22th 2010; 1.0.8.0). My problem was still there. I've reported it again, asking for help. Ten days went by without any confirmation or update from Musiland's support.

I'm, kind of disappointed...
post #752 of 903
FauDrei,
I noticed in your sig you had both the musiland and the M2Tech hiface...any comments/insights between the two you can give me? price aside, any issues between the m2tech and win7 64bit? how is their driver support, etc?

we are talkin $40 in the grand scheme of things, so it may be worth the headache and price... also, smaller unit that plugs in like dongle so it appeals better to me.
post #753 of 903
m2tech now HAS DS ! in win 64 bit and i prefer is over musiland
post #754 of 903
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post
glt,
thank you very much for the detailed email! that's exactly what I was looking for. So my understanding is, as per your post, that I need to first run the procedure from steps 1-9 in a 32bit System, then once the firmware upgrade is done, I can just plug it into my 64bit system and run with it?

also, is there a way to force win7 to run the install in 32bit mode for the install upgrade, and then back the 64bit operation from thereafter?

Musiland should have really thought this thru!
I'm new around here but I just bought the Musiland based on this thread and have updated the driver twice now, first to 1.07 and now to 1.0.8.2 and both times this was done on an Acer Aspire 1410 netbook with Win 7. Seems to be working fine but having never run it on an XP machine I'm just assuming this. I have running via Foobar 1.0 in "precision" mode with WASAPI.
post #755 of 903
Just for fun, not for arguing with glt in any way, let me modify my statements a little to see how ridiculous Musiland's activation is for general users:

This is like that you have spent a lot of time to identify a big screen TV and made an effort to move it home and get it hooked up. Then turn on this nice looking TV to play an exciting BlueRay movie but find following message on the screen: "License Invalid. Only standard DVD movies can be played. To play BlueRay HD movies, please contact the the manufacture for an updated license". By reading the fine print, you further find that it will take a few days to obtain the license. In this situation, I will be very very disappointed.

Again, it is good to see that Musiland has realized this was a blunder and has abandoned it. I am not happy just because I thought it has been several months since the Sept. of 2009 and the one I ordered two weeks ago should not have this issue anymore. I put my complains here just to hope all the new buyer get the products in new version.

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Originally Posted by glt View Post
Not sure if you can "force" win7-64.

Regarding the need to send your serial number and wait for file, the story goes like this:


- All products work with the drivers included in the CD.
- Some products before driver 1.05 has the old firmaware
- Around that time, Musiland figured that some people were copying their s/w and using it in hardware other than Musiland
- Musiland decided to add some authentication code that will ensure musiland s/w would only work with musiland h/w
- Older products required firmware upgrade, but the firmware was specific to the serial number
- Thus the e-mail process

Sure there is a couple of days wait, some people longer, some people shorter. And sure Musiland can do this better, but after the old devices are sold, there will be no more of this. Besides, the old driver would still work while you wait for the new driver so not quite like your TV example :-). Besides where can you get USB 24/192K solution for 80 bucks?
post #756 of 903
Who can email to make sure I have the newest driver?

I bought one 2nd-hand and found a version online.

thanks!
DC
post #757 of 903
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post
any issues between the m2tech and win7 64bit? how is their driver support, etc?
hiFace did just kernel streaming on 7 x64. A couple of days ago I've received beta 1.03 driver which supposedly does also WASAPI and DS on 7 x64. Cannot confirm that yet - had no opportunity to swap my XP with 7 x64 disk this week. Reports from other people have been positive though, and I can add that 1.03 works very well on XP x32.

M2Tech driver development is split between several Windows and Mac platforms (perhaps also linux in the future), so their drivers are developed/updated in cycles. Releases are not very frequent, but issues are prioritized and resolved continuously according to priority. I had less issues with hiFace drivers then with Musiland ones (as you probably know from few posts back).

Personally I prefer Musiland's Monitor 01 USD "metal box" device format to hiFace's "dongle" format. I think is more versatile and robust, and I do not mind nor care for presence or absence of USB cable inbetween.

That said, hiFace outperforms 01 USD in my setup - it goes little higher and lower than 01 USD, it is more clear and ambiance cues are better conveyed.
post #758 of 903
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwmhf View Post
Just for fun, not for arguing with glt in any way, let me modify my statements a little to see how ridiculous Musiland's activation is for general users:

...
:-) but still a stretch. It would be like DVD and DVD with a blacker black :-)
post #759 of 903
glt, I think I should give up on you, but not on my crippled Monitor 01USD. I am still waiting for the license code and I am sure I will get it soon.
post #760 of 903
This is the link I was trying to locate before:

Index of /musiland
post #761 of 903
I reinstalled the older driver because it seems to sound better. The newer ones seemed to be digitally boosting the sound.
post #762 of 903
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrDave View Post
I reinstalled the older driver because it seems to sound better. The newer ones seemed to be digitally boosting the sound.
Which among of the oldest is better then new one?
post #763 of 903
ok guys, need a confirmation ASAP!!

will musiland's 01 USD play 192khz from within windows Media Player or Windows Media Center???!

I'm confused on whether WMP/MCE uses WASAPI and if wether or not Musiland 01 uses it to interface out.

I don't want to install yet another player like J river or play them via foobar...I just want to be able to play them via windows Media Center.

what are my alternatives?
post #764 of 903
Quote:
Originally Posted by shrisha View Post
Which among of the oldest is better then new one?
I'd love to know as well. I've only used 1.07 and 1.08.2 and I'm not too crazy about either . I would also agree that the latest one sounds more 'digital" but would the older versions still support Windows 7 64?
post #765 of 903
Alexdad54, In what way do you prefer the earlier version?

I am concerned that these drivers all change the sq as well, all this device is supposed to do is deliver untainted bits to our dacs. Its hard for me to make a judgement myself at the moment as I am suffering from new cap burn in. One of these drivers must be closer to 'no artifical ingrediants' then the others but which one?
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