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post #76 of 902
7/15/09 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by dugq View Post
This could be just what I've been looking for. One question though, can anyone confirm if 24/192 is available via the optical output? I've seen quite a few products that offer 24/192 via coax but only 24/96 through optical.
btw, the frequency (bit rate * word length, pretty much) is what matters.

from a table I found online:


2.8224 Mbit/s 44.1 kHz sampling rate, CD, DAT
3.0720 Mbit/s 48 kHz sampling rate, DAT
2.0480 Mbit/s 32 kHz sampling rate, for satellite purposes

those are for the 'old' sample rates.

if we take 3mhz as the 48k rate (close enough) and multiply it by 4 for 192 we get 12mhz.

my guess is that the 16mhz parts may work and the 25mhz parts really *should* work ok, for toslink.

realize you need 'good parts' on both sides to make it work.
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post #77 of 902
7/15/09 at 1:17pm
Can anyone compare this with the m audio transit?
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post #78 of 902
7/16/09 at 11:11am
I've just heard back from the e-bay seller that this does support 24/192 over toslink! Looks like I'll be getting one of these.
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post #79 of 902
7/16/09 at 3:41pm
Is the USB interface synchronous or asynchronous?

Is it bitperfect (i.e. does not resample, etc)?
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post #80 of 902
7/16/09 at 3:49pm
take what 'sellers' have to say with a grain of salt, please.

they frequently know very little about their products when it comes to the finer details. they are simply SELLERS. don't confuse them with folks like us who know our details

more than once I've seen really wrong info come back from so-called power sellers.
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post #81 of 902
7/16/09 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by linuxworks View Post
take what 'sellers' have to say with a grain of salt, please.

they frequently know very little about their products when it comes to the finer details. they are simply SELLERS. don't confuse them with folks like us who know our details

more than once I've seen really wrong info come back from so-called power sellers.
LOL, quite right. But I've been looking for a USB > toslink interface for a while and was about to get a EMU 0404 which only offers 24/96 and is about 3 times the cost. The only 24/192 interfaces I've seen are costly pro-audio firewire. So if it does 24/192, sweet, if not, it's still a saving on the 0404. I'll report back with my findings once I've got it.
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post #82 of 902
7/16/09 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by dugq View Post
LOL, quite right. But I've been looking for a USB > toslink interface for a while and was about to get a EMU 0404 which only offers 24/96 and is about 3 times the cost. The only 24/192 interfaces I've seen are costly pro-audio firewire. So if it does 24/192, sweet, if not, it's still a saving on the 0404. I'll report back with my findings once I've got it.
In Stereophile Bel Canto USB Link review they found EMU 0404 inferior and Transit same level.
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post #83 of 902
7/16/09 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
In Stereophile Bel Canto USB Link review they found EMU 0404 inferior and Transit same level.
Can you tell us more about the review. Or is it maybe available online?

EDIT: Nevermind. I found the review already.
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post #84 of 902
7/16/09 at 5:17pm
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Originally Posted by gevorg View Post
Is the USB interface synchronous or asynchronous?

Is it bitperfect (i.e. does not resample, etc)?
Must be isochronous.
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post #85 of 902
7/16/09 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by Patu View Post
Can you tell us more about the review. Or is it maybe available online?

EDIT: Nevermind. I found the review already.
For the rest
Stereophile: Bel Canto USB Link 24/96 USB-S/PDIF converter
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post #86 of 902
7/16/09 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
I read that review with interest but it left me confused. JA seemed to feel it measured terribly but he thought it sounded fine.

My question is whether I'm better off running optical straight out of my Mac into my DAC or getting one of these USB converters? Probably a question that's already been answered somewhere on here...
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post #87 of 902
7/16/09 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by indydieselnut View Post
I read that review with interest but it left me confused. JA seemed to feel it measured terribly but he thought it sounded fine.

My question is whether I'm better off running optical straight out of my Mac into my DAC or getting one of these USB converters? Probably a question that's already been answered somewhere on here...

IMO, yes. I have a couple of different converters and I think they're great and do their job. I personally only use them on the PCs that do not have optical. I use optical to dac on the ones with it.

Remember, the end result is your DAC....
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post #88 of 902
7/16/09 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by indydieselnut View Post
I read that review with interest but it left me confused. JA seemed to feel it measured terribly but he thought it sounded fine.

My question is whether I'm better off running optical straight out of my Mac into my DAC or getting one of these USB converters? Probably a question that's already been answered somewhere on here...
I've found Trends UD-10.1 performing better than optical out of Sony Vaio AW. But it maxes out at 16/48.
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post #89 of 902
7/17/09 at 12:43am
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
Must be isochronous.
Whats isochronous? As far as I know USB audio interfaces are either asynchronous (like Wavelength Audio dacs) or synchronous (like Empirical Audio dacs).
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post #90 of 902
7/17/09 at 1:58am
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Originally Posted by gevorg View Post
Whats isochronous? As far as I know USB audio interfaces are either asynchronous (like Wavelength Audio dacs) or synchronous (like Empirical Audio dacs).
USB in a NutShell - Chapter 4 - Endpoint Types
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