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post #61 of 903
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Originally Posted by linuxworks View Post
if you only want i2s (which is just a 'cleanly separated clock and data' - why not just a gamma1 lite? the pcm chip it uses separates the 2 just fine and is the heat of many of the usb 'audio output' devices, both digital and analog (and even i2s if you want all those extra wires, lol)
the reason I ask for I2S from this Musiland is that The y1 and some other common USB receivers can't work with 24/96 or 24/192 natively.

I currently try to implement following setup for my laptop:

PC ->USB receiver capable of 24/192 ->I2S->DAC capable of 24/192 -> balanced buffer -> B22 balanced

I don't want over sampling rate by ASRC up-sample in the DAC. So, with this setup, if I want to, I still can over sampling by using PC plug-in software. Also, I can play source that has high sampling rate natively (96 or 192)

Again, can any one please check if I2S can be pulled form Musiland ?

thanks
post #62 of 903
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Originally Posted by DoYouRight View Post
Andrew what are you talking about? Can you plug usb into your pc, and plug optical into your dac and run it? thats all I want to know
Sorry for the confusion, I meant if conversion from optical IN requires external power and unit does not have one, optical can only be used as OUT. Unless of course they allow to use USB in as power line which is possible but very unlikely.
post #63 of 903
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Originally Posted by kukku View Post
the reason I ask for I2S from this Musiland is that The y1 and some other common USB receivers can't work with 24/96 or 24/192 natively.

I currently try to implement following setup for my laptop:

PC ->USB receiver capable of 24/192 ->I2S->DAC capable of 24/192 -> balanced buffer -> B22 balanced

I don't want over sampling rate by ASRC up-sample in the DAC. So, with this setup, if I want to, I still can over sampling by using PC plug-in software. Also, I can play source that has high sampling rate natively (96 or 192)

Again, can any one please check if I2S can be pulled form Musiland ?

thanks
Software does upsampling, DAC oversampling, slightly different things. You can disable upsampling on some DACs, but not oversampling, unless it's NOS to begin with.
Some info here and in linked white papers http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f133/u...ng-nos-395439/
post #64 of 903
input usb, output optical?
post #65 of 903
On the ebay link, it states that USB is input, and everything else is output. That might clear some questions that were posed on this thread.

I am interested in this but I have a few thoughts/questions:


- Anyone know what brand capacitors are on this board? Looks like Rubycon, but the pictures are too small to confirm.
- Why have a volume slider for the ASIO output?
- There was mention of a Cambridge CDP reporting 20/192 when it was fed with 24/192. Were all of the volume sliders maxed when this was reported?
- I owned a Sndscape cinema, and the drivers were crap. Anyone have any problems with these using Vista x64 or 7 x64?
- Anyone know if the BNC connector is a true 75ohm connector? I read that the true ones do not have the Teflon shielding by the copper signal pin. Can anyone perhaps take a picture to confirm either way?
post #66 of 903
Has anyone here tried their Monitor 01 US DAC?
post #67 of 903
im getting one to compare to the bel canto usblink
post #68 of 903
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Originally Posted by DoYouRight View Post
im getting one to compare to the bel canto usblink
Just the comparison I was expecting. Can't wait to read your impressions.
post #69 of 903
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Originally Posted by Patu View Post
Just the comparison I was expecting. Can't wait to read your impressions.
Transit would do too, as it's comparable (same level) to Bel Canto link.
post #70 of 903
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
Transit would do too, as it's comparable (same level) to Bel Canto link.
I've briefly auditioned Bel Canto's USB Link and it didn't impress me that much. It sounded more digital to me than a regular bit perfect optical output via cheap sound card + cmediadrivers.
post #71 of 903
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Originally Posted by roadtonowhere08 View Post
- There was mention of a Cambridge CDP reporting 20/192 when it was fed with 24/192. Were all of the volume sliders maxed when this was reported?
I use an 840C and I also get this issue with the volume sliders maxed on my Musiland.

It happens with the on-board Realtek audio and M-Audio Transit I used to have too. They show up as <= 20-bit on my 840C even when I've set the output to 24-bit.

The only source where it has ever displayed 24-bit for me is a Sound Blaster X-Fi 5.1 USB.

The 840C's manual says that it simply displays the word width that the source says it is, regardless of what it actually is.
post #72 of 903
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Originally Posted by Shiki View Post
I use an 840C and I also get this issue with the volume sliders maxed on my Musiland.

It happens with the on-board Realtek audio and M-Audio Transit I used to have too. They show up as <= 20-bit on my 840C even when I've set the output to 24-bit.

The only source where it has ever displayed 24-bit for me is a Sound Blaster X-Fi 5.1 USB.

The 840C's manual says that it simply displays the word width that the source says it is, regardless of what it actually is.
Very interesting, thanks for your input. I wonder why the two sources you mentioned would report incorrect bit depth if what they are sending is correct.

EDIT: Anyone have an idea as to who makes the capacitors inside? If anyone has one, a game of "peek-a-boo" would be very appreciated Also, anyone using Windows 7 RC X64 with this?

If the parts are good, and the drivers are good, I might pull the trigger.
post #73 of 903
This could be just what I've been looking for. One question though, can anyone confirm if 24/192 is available via the optical output? I've seen quite a few products that offer 24/192 via coax but only 24/96 through optical.
post #74 of 903
I think only coax does 192, but maybe Im wrong.
post #75 of 903
toslink can also run that high, I believe, but you need special toslink blocks for it.

Digi-Key - TORX142L-ND (Toshiba - TORX142L)

torx142 has a 25mhz base rate. most of the others are 6mhz or 15mhz.

one of them (non standard connector, for audio) supporting even 125mhz!

Digi-Key - TORX1400F-ND (Toshiba - TORX1400(F))



so, I think its possible. is it a good idea? not sure
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