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post #286 of 322
1/26/10 at 3:41pm
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Originally Posted by Seamaster View Post
Since Beyer T1 have 600 ohm load, they should greatly benefit from being balanced IMHO.

@TheAudioDude
"I like to look at it as a future-proof type of thing."
me too.

@tosehee
"I used to own Phoenix with HD800."
How do you like that combo compare to WA22? Phoenix priced at $1200 USD, there are only few hundred dollars gap, ofcourse tubes cost money too.
The true cost of WA22 is not really $1900. C'mon. You should know that more than anybody here. :-)

It's more like $2400 vs. $1200.

Twice more expensive, if not more, imo.

As for Phoenix vs. WA22, I'd wait until it gets proper burn-in and what not. I tried out briefly with stock tubes and Mazda. Mazda definitely makes it less boomy/muddy, and definitely improves by several steps. I am going to see how rec/power tubes upgrade will improve upon.
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post #287 of 322
1/26/10 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post
The true cost of WA22 is not really $1900. C'mon. You should know that more than anybody here. :-)

It's more like $2400 vs. $1200.

Twice more expensive, if not more, imo.

As for Phoenix vs. WA22, I'd wait until it gets proper burn-in and what not. I tried out briefly with stock tubes and Mazda. Mazda definitely makes it less boomy/muddy, and definitely improves by several steps. I am going to see how rec/power tubes upgrade will improve upon.
Ha ha, my bad. My amp took 100+ hours burn-in to sound great.
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post #288 of 322
1/26/10 at 3:48pm
$1900 + Sophia + Mazda (+ Adapter) + 6AS7 Tubes =
$1900 + $150 + $80 + $40 + $50 ($50 - $110+) = $2220 to $2280+ (excluding tax/shipping)

Same config with EML = Add $70 more which is roughly $2300 to $2380.

If you get 6F8G, another $40 for adapter + $80 or so for tube = $120.

Now, if you are thinking of getting GEC or similar.. heh.. Price seems to climb up even further...
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post #289 of 322
1/26/10 at 4:01pm
You beat me up on this one tosehee You are very right. Let us know how do you compare these two amps even with the price gap? Thanks.

I will let people know how $399 HD650 compare to $995 Beyer T1 later
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post #290 of 322
1/26/10 at 4:17pm
I wrote it couple times, and erased, and decided to hold off that comparison until I get it properly burned-in.
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post #291 of 322
1/26/10 at 6:05pm
@tosehee

Thank you so much for the sharing of your experience. Great stuff as usual!

The input/output limitation of Sonett may be its most issue, which may also be inevitable due to its design philosophy, "simplicity".

Your arguments certain moves me closer to Sonett. The cost of tube rolling is a very realistic factor to be considered. That was one of the reasons I like Sonett.

Look forward to your comparison of Phoenix and WA22.
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post #292 of 322
1/26/10 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by dukja View Post
@tosehee

Thank you so much for the sharing of your experience. Great stuff as usual!

The input/output limitation of Sonett may be its most issue, which may also be inevitable due to its design philosophy, "simplicity".

Your arguments certain moves me closer to Sonett. The cost of tube rolling is a very realistic factor to be considered. That was one of the reasons I like Sonett.

Look forward to your comparison of Phoenix and WA22.
Any time.

Oh, one last thing that drove me away from Sonnett was its output power. It will certainly drive my existing phones w/o any issue. But, it can't drive HE-5 at all. I asked the designer, and he said that Sonnett won't be able to drive well even at max volume.

Hope this helps.
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post #293 of 322
1/26/10 at 7:26pm
For that, Beyer T1 is out of picture, that sucks
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post #294 of 322
1/26/10 at 7:57pm
I'm very intrigued by the Beyer T1s. Seamaster, have you received yours yet?
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post #295 of 322
1/26/10 at 8:04pm
Not yet. I lost some sleep on this one. I plan to recable my T1 with SAA hard wire cabe. But price is around $600~$700 USD. Now Todd at TTVJ is going to find out better price for me......

I never meet Todd, but most my big dollar audio gears were bought from him, new and used. Everything works great so far.
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post #296 of 322
2/11/10 at 3:58pm
Is anyone using this amp with Audio-Technica headphones? I'm looking for a amp that goes well with my Audio-Technicas and DT880 2003 and both wa2 and wa22 seem interesting.
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post #297 of 322
2/11/10 at 7:10pm
WA22 drives Audio-Technica L-3000 well, but tone is wrong. Mid range of L3000 and human voice are very thick and overly rich, what covers high and bass. I did not like it at all. L3000 sound great with Audio-Technica's own amp and red wine audio amp.
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post #298 of 322
2/18/10 at 2:13pm
At last!!!

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post #299 of 322
2/18/10 at 3:05pm
Nice rig.

Grats and that Sophia needs to lose some belly.. :-)
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post #300 of 322
2/18/10 at 4:04pm
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Nice rig.

Grats and that Sophia needs to lose some belly.. :-)
Thanks tosehee.
Sophia will do (as I did: eating was overrated when I was saving for it )
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