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post #16 of 31
T4 & nano:

post #17 of 31
Complete noob here, so please excuse the naive questions, but what is a LOD (I'm thinking "line out __"..?), and is the T4 a DAC/Amp combo or just an amp?
post #18 of 31
Thread Starter 
nice pic greatdane. a lod is a line out dock. the t4 is an amp only.
post #19 of 31
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Originally Posted by eric5469 View Post
nice pic greatdane. a lod is a line out dock. the t4 is an amp only.
Ok, thank you.
post #20 of 31
Thread Starter 
ok guys something else i've been looking at. would i be better off getting a caffeine amp instead of the t4. maybe it would be a more versatile amp? it is somewhat bigger, but i think i could live with that. just thinking if i buy another pair of cans in the future(higher imped). does anybody own/listened to the t4 and caffeine? does penguin site ship out very fast now? still trying to keep the amp size small and around 100usd.
thx
post #21 of 31
Thread Starter 
the more i read the more indecisive i am. i should have stopped after the 100+ forum pages this weekend lol.
post #22 of 31
I have to say you're better off putting the money from LOD and amp into better headphones. Not bashing the SR60, just saying they're at the bottom of the Grado line for a reason. If that's where your budget is, then its a great phone for you, but if you have another $100-150 to spend it should go to better phones.

I had a pair of SR80s, really liked them and moved up to MS2is. I liked those more! I amped them with a cheap, but powerful cmoy. There was a noticeable difference, but really for on the move not worth it. They sounded great right out of portable players...clip, cowon d2,

I understand the allure of the gear, but think about it...
post #23 of 31
this forum is like Sticky tar once you take the first step its hard to buy anything without spending 2 weeks researching but i definetely suggest just getting an impedance adapter first since you prefer quieter listening... Amps are designed to play louder not softer
post #24 of 31
Thread Starter 
ok so where do I get an impedance adapter? does the adapter take hiss out? i think i might get a pair of re2s to check out besides my grados that are coming.
post #25 of 31
I'm going through a similar process at present. Also have some SR60s and started to get interested in more gear :-) I bought a Fiio e5 to use with my dmp (Nokia E71) but it doesn't make a discernable difference to audio quality. It's most useful to use as a remote volume control... The extra bass circuit does make a bit of difference, but it's not as though the SR60 has weak bass anyhow. Really like the sound of the Grados though and I was very close to making a fairly massive leap and getting some RS2s and an RA1 the other day (big order just came in...) but thankfully sense prevailed... Can definitely see some higher end Grados in my future though, partnered with an appropriate amp.
post #26 of 31
Always get better headphones first over a portable amp. Doing this will always be a much bigger improvement in my experience.

People shouldn't expect miracles by pairing their sub $100 headphones with a portable amp. Yes the sound will improve but not by the margin that people looking for a portable amp think.

Upgrade path should always be DAP-->Headphones-->Portable Amp-->Cables.
post #27 of 31
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Originally Posted by RAQemUP View Post
Always get better headphones first over a portable amp. Doing this will always be a much bigger improvement in my experience.

People shouldn't expect miracles by pairing their sub $100 headphones with a portable amp. Yes the sound will improve but not by the margin that people looking for a portable amp think.

Upgrade path should always be DAP-->Headphones-->Portable Amp-->Cables.
Sorta sucks for those who just got done paying what they thought was an exorbitant amount of money on headphones. The price I paid for my SR60s is the most I've ever spent on headphones, and I couldn't even imagine paying more than that before now. I think a lot of people who just get into this hobby are hoping they can take their relatively cheap headphones to a slightly higher level of listening enjoyment by buying a relatively cheap amp/dac to go with those cheap phones.

What probably doesn't help is the mixed bag of advice on these forums where some folks think its perfectly acceptable (and even advisable) to invest a small amount of cash into a decent cheap headphone/amp combo for entry users, while other posters think its a waste of money to own any audio equipment under $300, and that pairing an amp with a cheap piece of garbage phones like the SR60s is a waste of time and money with no payoff.

A bit confusing...
post #28 of 31
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A bit confusing...
It might help to remember that you are dealing here with a large number of people who are confusing a shopping addiction with a "hobby." It is indeed a "mixed bag."

If you've got plenty of disposable income and are really into your music, then it might make sense to spend over $1000 on a portable setup. What percentage of the population is that?

The SR60 is a totally fine headphone and sortof universally agreed one of the best values out there. But yeah, it's an entry-level can. So in the case of the OP, if he's got the SR60 and wants to invest another ~$150 into the rig, the obvious upgrade is the headphones, not amplification.

In your case, the upgrade is free: cultivate contentment.
post #29 of 31
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Originally Posted by LeftyGorilla View Post
It might help to remember that you are dealing here with a large number of people who are confusing a shopping addiction with a "hobby." It is indeed a "mixed bag."

If you've got plenty of disposable income and are really into your music, then it might make sense to spend over $1000 on a portable setup. What percentage of the population is that?

The SR60 is a totally fine headphone and sortof universally agreed one of the best values out there. But yeah, it's an entry-level can. So in the case of the OP, if he's got the SR60 and wants to invest another ~$150 into the rig, the obvious upgrade is the headphones, not amplification.

In your case, the upgrade is free: cultivate contentment.
Yeah, good points. Its regrettable that more people don't find forums like this before they make their first audiophile-type purchase in the first place. Ah well, what can you do...
post #30 of 31
Thread Starter 
ok i've got an e5 coming(can't go wrong there). i think i'm gonna just get me a pair of re-2 to try and compare them to the sr60s. think i'll just hold off on the amp since money isn't abundant right now. but, i sure want to play around with an amp
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