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post #3811 of 4266

Thanks for all the comments. The um3x sound exactly like what I want in the imaging department. Regarding the bass though, does it render sub bass pretty well? I appreciate bass rumble much more than bass impact. And by being accurate, does that mean it become bass heavy with bass heavy music? Or will I feel unfulfilled with music that revolves around the sub bass. I absolutely love the way my ER4Ps image songs, and sometimes I'm even quite surprised by their fast, accurate bass. But when I listen to songs with rumbling bass lines, I feel like getting new headphones.

 


 

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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

The soundstage is of a more accurate size from a performers perspective (for some venues) but from a concert viewer perspective, it is somewhat closed in from left to right. However it has very good depth. I don't mind it though, as it does everything else so well.
I wouldn't prescribe larger soundstages as artificial. It's just a matter of perspective.


Hey Shane, how would you compare the ASG-1s with the um3x? Because those new Aurosonics really intruige me. Especially the price point. From what I've read, they can image almostas well as the um3x, but are a bit better in the bass department.

post #3812 of 4266
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Originally Posted by tseliottt View Post

Thanks for all the comments. The um3x sound exactly like what I want in the imaging department. Regarding the bass though, does it render sub bass pretty well? I appreciate bass rumble much more than bass impact. And by being accurate, does that mean it become bass heavy with bass heavy music? Or will I feel unfulfilled with music that revolves around the sub bass. I absolutely love the way my ER4Ps image songs, and sometimes I'm even quite surprised by their fast, accurate bass. But when I listen to songs with rumbling bass lines, I feel like getting new headphones.

 


Hey Shane, how would you compare the ASG-1s with the um3x? Because those new Aurosonics really intruige me. Especially the price point. From what I've read, they can image almostas well as the um3x, but are a bit better in the bass department.

 

It's been a while since I had the ASG-1 but I will be getting another opportunity with the new filters installed in a few days.  Discounting how the new filters affect the sound, I can tell you this:

 

The ASG-1 is going to have better bass.  It will be more in quantity and extend deeper, as you would expect from a large dynamic driver.  That being said, the UM3x has the best bass from a BA based universal I've heard to date.  Quantity wise it is more than the W4 and roughly equal to the SM3.  To me it is very satisfying with it's overall signature.  It is more about deep bass than mid bass.  All that being said, its not bass head levels but is plentiful.

 

Mid wise the UM3x wins hands down.  The UM3x mids are very detailed, clear and intimate with just a bit of warmth.  The ASG-1 mids are cool to cold and very dry, and as you may have read... "shouty".  Treble wise they are fairly similar but treble on the ASG-1 gets drown out by the very forward mids at times but both have some sparkle but never fatiguing.

 

I really haven't heard anything that images and layers as well as the UM3x.  It's really where it shines.  Well that and the mids.  The soundstage of the ASG-1 is a love/hate affair.  It's similar to the SM3 where it presents the music in a bubble around your head, basically surrounding you.  I found it fatiguing over long listening sessions.  I'm not sure what affect the new filters may have over this presentation but I look forward to finding out.

 

I'm very happy with the UM3x and have been using it as my primary commute phone on a daily basis.  I can see it sticking around for a long while.
 

 


Edited by shotgunshane - 3/20/12 at 5:09pm
post #3813 of 4266
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

 

It's been a while since I had the ASG-1 but I will be getting another opportunity with the new filters installed in a few days.  Discounting how the new filters affect the sound, I can tell you this:

 

The ASG-1 is going to have better bass.  It will be more in quantity and extend deeper, as you would expect from a large dynamic driver.  That being said, the UM3x has the best bass from a BA based universal I've heard to date.  Quantity wise it is more than the W4 and roughly equal to the SM3.  To me it is very satisfying with it's overall signature.  It is more about deep bass than mid bass.  All that being said, its not bass head levels but is plentiful.

 

Mid wise the UM3x wins hands down.  The UM3x mids are very detailed, clear and intimate with just a bit of warmth.  The ASG-1 mids are cool to cold and very dry, and as you may have read... "shouty".  Treble wise they are fairly similar but treble on the ASG-1 gets drown out by the very forward mids at times but both have some sparkle but never fatiguing.

 

I really haven't heard anything that images and layers as well as the UM3x.  It's really where it shines.  Well that and the mids.  The soundstage of the ASG-1 is a love/hate affair.  It's similar to the SM3 where it presents the music in a bubble around your head, basically surrounding you.  I found it fatiguing over long listening sessions.  I'm not sure what affect the new filters may have over this presentation but I look forward to finding out.

 

I'm very happy with the UM3x and have been using it as my primary commute phone on a daily basis.  I can see it sticking around for a long while.
 

 



Perfect. You have me sold on the Westones, I'll be buying some today. Thanks.

post #3814 of 4266
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Originally Posted by tseliottt View Post



Perfect. You have me sold on the Westones, I'll be buying some today. Thanks.



Great, I hope they live up to expectations.  They are very comfortable with easy fit.  The gray soft flex sleeves they come with are great and Shure foam olives work well too.

post #3815 of 4266

I'm about to reach my first year as a daily user of the UM3x for commute and at the office and all i can say is that i'm still thrilled by them. Isolation, comfort, instrument separation, warmth, intimacy, volume, and high impedance that copes well with amplifiers' output impedance make this iem very valuable and unique.

post #3816 of 4266

My UM3x's sound is getting cut out on the right channel sometimes. I think its the cable. Since its the RC version, would Westone honor the warranty or am I out of luck and need to get another cable on my own?

post #3817 of 4266
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Originally Posted by Teraflame View Post

My UM3x's sound is getting cut out on the right channel sometimes. I think its the cable. Since its the RC version, would Westone honor the warranty or am I out of luck and need to get another cable on my own?



Why not ask Westone that themselves? ... CustomerService@westone.com

post #3818 of 4266
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

The ASG-1 is going to have better bass.  It will be more in quantity and extend deeper, as you would expect from a large dynamic driver.  That being said, the UM3x has the best bass from a BA based universal I've heard to date.  Quantity wise it is more than the W4 and roughly equal to the SM3.  To me it is very satisfying with it's overall signature.  It is more about deep bass than mid bass.  All that being said, its not bass head levels but is plentiful.

 

Mid wise the UM3x wins hands down.  The UM3x mids are very detailed, clear and intimate with just a bit of warmth.  The ASG-1 mids are cool to cold and very dry, and as you may have read... "shouty".  Treble wise they are fairly similar but treble on the ASG-1 gets drown out by the very forward mids at times but both have some sparkle but never fatiguing.

 

I really haven't heard anything that images and layers as well as the UM3x.  It's really where it shines.  Well that and the mids.  The soundstage of the ASG-1 is a love/hate affair.  It's similar to the SM3 where it presents the music in a bubble around your head, basically surrounding you.  I found it fatiguing over long listening sessions.  I'm not sure what affect the new filters may have over this presentation but I look forward to finding out.


You pretty much nailed it, my impressions of UM3X/ASG-1 are similar.

 

Although in terms of image and layering, SE535Ltd have an edge over the UM3X in my opinion. The only con of SE535Ltd is the price and the fact that their treble need amping or alternate cables to really reach the level of UM3X treble. For bass, UM3X/SE535Ltd are extremely similar.

 

post #3819 of 4266

 

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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

The ASG-1 is going to have better bass.  It will be more in quantity and extend deeper, as you would expect from a large dynamic driver.  That being said, the UM3x has the best bass from a BA based universal I've heard to date.  Quantity wise it is more than the W4 and roughly equal to the SM3.  To me it is very satisfying with it's overall signature.  It is more about deep bass than mid bass.  All that being said, its not bass head levels but is plentiful.

 

Mid wise the UM3x wins hands down.  The UM3x mids are very detailed, clear and intimate with just a bit of warmth.  The ASG-1 mids are cool to cold and very dry, and as you may have read... "shouty".  Treble wise they are fairly similar but treble on the ASG-1 gets drown out by the very forward mids at times but both have some sparkle but never fatiguing.

 

I really haven't heard anything that images and layers as well as the UM3x.  It's really where it shines.  Well that and the mids.  The soundstage of the ASG-1 is a love/hate affair.  It's similar to the SM3 where it presents the music in a bubble around your head, basically surrounding you.  I found it fatiguing over long listening sessions.  I'm not sure what affect the new filters may have over this presentation but I look forward to finding out.

 

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Originally Posted by tienbasse View Post


You pretty much nailed it, my impressions of UM3X/ASG-1 are similar.

 

Although in terms of image and layering, SE535Ltd have an edge over the UM3X in my opinion. The only con of SE535Ltd is the price and the fact that their treble need amping or alternate cables to really reach the level of UM3X treble. For bass, UM3X/SE535Ltd are extremely similar.

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers guys !

 

Very interesting as I'm considering UM3X as soon as i figure out what to do with ASG's.

 

 

post #3820 of 4266

I thought I'd share my mini-review of the UM3X:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/603986/mini-review-westone-um3x#post_8277592

post #3821 of 4266
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

I thought I'd share my mini-review of the UM3X:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/603986/mini-review-westone-um3x#post_8277592



Nice and informative review!

I Hav been listening to the UM3X and W4R for a few weeks already and all I can say is the UM3X still never fails to impress me coming from the w4.. The intimacy is very hard to part with whereas on the w4, evrything sounds ok and nothing wrong..
post #3822 of 4266
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Originally Posted by soullinker20 View Post


Nice and informative review!
I Hav been listening to the UM3X and W4R for a few weeks already and all I can say is the UM3X still never fails to impress me coming from the w4.. The intimacy is very hard to part with whereas on the w4, evrything sounds ok and nothing wrong..


yep. the w4 and um3x are two iem i won't part with for a very long time for the same reason.

post #3823 of 4266
My 4R has the same problem too. The right monitor does not produce any sound sometimes isn't it? I've sent my iem back for RMA though:cool:
post #3824 of 4266

my problem is my ears, with the um3x i find it hard to have a perfect seal on my right ear so sometimes i don't know if i'm hearing 100% on my right but nevertheless i'm lucky I don't have the problems with my 2 RC version of westones.. on the W4R, it's much easier to achieve a seal on the right .. seems that it could be the shorter nozzles that make it easier than the longer nozzle on the um3x

post #3825 of 4266
Interesting. I like the longer nozzles of the UM series better. It's easier for me to get a better fit. With single flange tips on either series, I have to use a large tip on the right and a medium on the left.
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