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post #1456 of 3864
Got Se 530 yesterday.

Now, Brief review between SE 530 And UM3X

SE 530 burn in after 10 hours. Sources: Korg Mr-1.

Clarity in SE 530 is one level behind UM3X.

SE 530 is having enough quantity in low end and detail to be called decent, still cant reach UM3X natural, airy, more detailed sound,

Mid end is well known as lush,smooth forward which trade off detail and transparency. SE 530 always can makes mid prominent and upfront no matter what, while UM3X is not upfront always. Sometimes UM3X is tad bright and lack of warmness, it is doing a great job most of time though by providing more detailed, lively, open sound like singer just sitting next to you, while SE 530 make me feel I am listening to CD, nothing more or less. I like UM3X better.

P.S Korg Mr-1 is very detail oriented, natural player which easily trumps all players in my sig just for detail alone., so my experience may be different when you are using ipod as sources.

High end in SE 530 is consistent to mid end, only a little less forward. Even short of energy, intimacy cover up nicely, that is why I think people can stand with roll-off. UM3X's high end is less consistent to other spectrum, pretty laid back, and fairly sparkly, not flushing you with a lot of detail, but still can consider to be natural. To be fair, both are not so good at this area if you ask me, IE8 is still better. Winner between these two is UM3X for sure.

Soundstage. SE 530 is doing great if it is comparing to UM3X, it is offering bigger soundstage and imagination, however it cant beat UM3X in instrument separation or layers.

My conclusion is that even I thought High end universal IEMs were only a matter of personal reference which was basically little trade off from what you prefer to. I can't help saying IE8 and UM3X seems to be one grade above SE 530. The reason is I may be not a big fan for how it color mid to exaggerate how prominent it is, sometimes over warm, flatted. Mid King without its famous mid let me make my rating

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post #1457 of 3864
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post
No probs, of course you can disagree with me.

I liken it to drinking and driving, where it's not guaranteed you'll have an accident if you drink and drive, but you're certainly more at risk of having an accident. There have been many reported cases of accidents where the pedestrian in question could just not hear what was happening/ coming. There's actually a campaign where I live warning people precisely against this constant use of earphones all over the place.
No doubt there have been some accidents, but the ones I've read about usually have someone walking down a train track with their ear buds, and getting run over. The same as drinking and driving? I can't agree on that one.

To me, your eyes are a much more critical component in risk management when it comes to IEMs and walking. Now driving with them in is another matter. It's also against the law.

Example:
When I cross a city street wearing IEMs, I never take for granted that a car turning is going to grant me the legal right of way. But I don't wait to hear someone blow their horn, I actually turn my head and look. I depend much more on my eyes than ears for traversing city streets.

Of course, someone on HF is an entire thread (or two) devoted to the perils (or no perils) of walking around with IEMs. I also used PK3s (buds) when I had them, and with music playing, it's really not that much different to me.

Sorry, back to the UM3X...
post #1458 of 3864
Nice comparison, if I ever decide to move from the W3s to the UM3X.

So you bought the Korg over the Amp3?

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Originally Posted by gameboy115 View Post
Got Se 530 yesterday.

Now, Brief review between SE 530 And UM3X

SE 530 burn in after 10 hours. Sources: Korg Mr-1.

Clarity in SE 530 is one level behind UM3X.

SE 530 is having enough quantity in low end and detail to called decent, still cant reach UM3X natural, airy, more detailed sound,

Mid end is well known as lush,smooth forward which trade off detail and transparency. SE 530 always can makes mid prominent and upfront no matter what, while UM3X is not upfront always. Sometimes UM3X is tad bright and lack of warmness, it is doing a great job most of time though by providing more detailed, lively, open sound like singer just sitting next to you, while SE 530 make me feel I am listening to CD, nothing more or less. I like UM3X better.

P.S Korg Mr-1 is very detail oriented, natural player which easily trumps all players in my sig just for detail alone., so my experience may be different when you are using ipod as sources.

High end in SE 530 is consistent to mid end, only a little less forward. Even short of energy, intimacy cover up nicely, that is why I think people can stand with roll-off. UM3X's high end is less consistent to other spectrum, pretty laid back, and fairly sparkly, not flushing you with a lot of detail, but still can considered to be natural. To be fair, both are not so good at this area if you ask me, IE8 is still better. Winner between these two is UM3X for sure.

Soundstage. SE 530 is doing great if it is comparing to UM3X, it is offering bigger soundstage and imagination, however it cant beat UM3X in instrument separation or layers.

My conclusion is that even I thought High end universal IEM was only a matter of personal reference which was basically little trade off form what you prefer to. I can't help saying IE8 and UM3X seems to be one grade above SE 530. The reason is I may be not a big fan for how it color mid to exaggerate how prominent it is, even sometimes over warm, flatted. Mid King without its famous mid let me make my rating
post #1459 of 3864
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Originally Posted by tstarn06 View Post
Nice comparison, if I ever decide to move from the W3s to the UM3X.
Today I switched from my UM56 tips to my single flange silicone tips and wow, the UM56 are just so much better with smoother highs and well controlled bass plus richer mids, bringing the W3 so much closer to what I heard with the UM3X than one would expect. You NEED the UM56, because even if you switch to the UM3X those tips still sound great with them as well.
post #1460 of 3864
They are on my list, believe me. I just need to get a little extras cash stashed, now that I ordered the Amp3. If I like the Amp3, I may sell my Touch and that could finance the UM56s. So I am with you.
post #1461 of 3864
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Originally Posted by tstarn06 View Post
Nice comparison, if I ever decide to move from the W3s to the UM3X.

So you bought the Korg over the Amp3?
Thanks. Great memory, I choose it over amp3 for now. Depending on its rating afterward, I would seriously grabbing amp3 too

The review is brief, I may update it after doing more burn in since I found UM3X was at least after 40 hours to give me listenable experience
post #1462 of 3864
Can't wait to get the Amp3. One of the owners reports that his UE11s now sound great with them, no more hiss. After 60 hours of amp burn-in. Very exciting. Sorry to get off topic again.

I guess Larry convinced me to try the UM56 before moving to the UM3X. I do like the W3s fine, but would like a permanent tip solution, though the modded tri-flanges sound great (and are cheap). But I was very tempted by the UM3X.
post #1463 of 3864
IEM in general is not very good for walking, cause if you have a tight fit sometime you could hear your heart beat, the wire and your footstep.

Maybe something not all the way into the ear canal but just on the ears. or resting on the ear canal.
post #1464 of 3864
True. But I find the UM3X good for running
post #1465 of 3864
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post #1466 of 3864
hmmm this morning thought oh ill stick the um3 in and after a few min thought oh ill plug the shure variable attenuator into the LOD and run them that way since they seem to sound crappy through anything but the ipod hp out. i thought it should sound just the same but restoring the highs the hp out kills.

how wrong. they sound totally different, that freeky, ive never noticed anything else sound different between hp and line out. anyone else find this
post #1467 of 3864
you know i think im hearing what others have been hearing, soundstage has shrunk but mids have crept forwards and are really beginning to sound like they can pretend to be on teh same planet as the 530.

my god this is the fussiest IEM ive ever used
post #1468 of 3864
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
my god this is the fussiest IEM ive ever used


Ha ha ah .. LOL . Yes, UM3Xs sound signature can be controled by telepathy . It can be anything... (Just kidding).
post #1469 of 3864
thing is using the line out the bass just trails away and they feel so much thinner but the mids and highs are much improved.

i want both
post #1470 of 3864
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
hmmm this morning thought oh ill stick the um3 in and after a few min thought oh ill plug the shure variable attenuator into the LOD and run them that way since they seem to sound crappy through anything but the ipod hp out. i thought it should sound just the same but restoring the highs the hp out kills.

how wrong. they sound totally different, that freeky, ive never noticed anything else sound different between hp and line out. anyone else find this

Not really expert about lod. Wide guess. When you are using to shure attenuator via lod, is that internal amp in ipod being bypassed, that makes sound different than Hp out. But you also mentioned you have met this condiotn before.......confusing
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