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post #4531 of 4837
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Originally Posted by foreign View Post

Mr Limbo I'm wondering if your Stx is faulty. The DG is ok but in comparison to the STX there is quite a bit of difference. The DG just isn't in the same ballpark I've gotx2 pc's one with Stx my main rig and a backup with the DG. I can notice a bit of a difference between the two.
Ignore that just realised you were talking about d2x. Lol

Hi , no your correct , well almost , its the DGX , so it is the same card , the D2/X is a card i want to try if the STX doesnt work out for me !!!

 

No my STX isnt faulty , bought from a member from here infact , and yes its far superior than the DGX in many ways , but its just its signature sound , i just dont like it , ive read quite a few other people find it rather harsh and a little analytical not very musical in a sense , but i am sticking with for a long time and will try out as many opamp variations as i can , to try and get it to work with my ears !!

 

Might even invest in a one pair of higher priced opamps if i have too !!

 

Cheers

post #4532 of 4837
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Originally Posted by mrlimbo View Post

Hi , no your correct , well almost , its the DGX , so it is the same card , the D2/X is a card i want to try if the STX doesnt work out for me !!!

No my STX isnt faulty , bought from a member from here infact , and yes its far superior than the DGX in many ways , but its just its signature sound , i just dont like it , ive read quite a few other people find it rather harsh and a little analytical not very musical in a sense , but i am sticking with for a long time and will try out as many opamp variations as i can , to try and get it to work with my ears !!

Might even invest in a one pair of higher priced opamps if i have too !!
Hope you find the sound you are looking for :-). Make sure you post the OP Amps you have purchased if you find the right pair. Been looking for a nice substitute aswell.
post #4533 of 4837
Still happy with my LME49990 in the buffer and two LM4562NA/NOPB in the I/V using RCA-out, currently feeding a NAD Stereo Preamplifier 116 driving my HD600:s. Very high definition but still musical and with great punch! I currently don't feel like I'm missing out on anything and think the DAC-case is closed. At the moment more interested in finding some ultimate desktop monitors :-) (even though I have very good sound as is in my current mini monitors for PC-sound - 3.5" mica-PP woofers + 1" soft domes + 8" active subwoofer)
Edited by xeizo - 7/5/13 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by mrlimbo View Post

Nice one , good find , but i do wonder if there genuine though , at least one feedback for one of the dealers , states there re badged fakes ??


I considered that....sometimes you take a chance.  I think they're the real goods.  Listening via a Music First Classic pre, Bryston 3B SST and Thiel 2 2s the sound stage steps back slightly from the front of the speakers and becomes deeper and more spacious......not as hard and flat as the stock op amps.  For $60 a tangible improvement.

 

Cheers!

 

Gus

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Just wanted to relay what my experience has been with opamps.  I am using Sennheiser HD650 headphones straight thru the xonar stx.  I have the rca outputs going to a Harmon-Kardon avr 510,connected to Electrovoice Sentry V's.  Sounds real nice thru either but we all want a little more.  If I use the headphones thru the receiver the sound is not quite as good as what I hear through the headphone out on the xonar itself.  So most of my listening has been thru the head out jack.  Reading here on the opamps, I finally decided to give it a go.  I bought 3LME49720NA dual opamps and just installed no problem.  The difference for me was clear.  The soundstage seemed a bit larger, but the sound seemed a bit thin. The bass was well defined as was the treble and midrange, but just a little less life to it.  I listened to hd flac, mp3, wav all were the same. On occasion would hear a little sibiance that never showed up with the stock opamps. Listened to all kinds of music for a few hours, and decided to go back to stock opamps, but before I did I put on the avr, and tried the sound on it.  Wow, what a difference in the sound on the line out, even the wife had to come back and listened a bit to the difference.  So naturally I figured I better try the headphone out on the avr, again, big difference from the stock opamps. Now using the Senns thru the headphone jack on the receiver, I have what I was looking for. More openness better and more detailed bass, treble, headphones sounded so realistic I spent another two hours going through as much varied material as I had, just to make sure it was good to go on all types of music, and it is.  Best  twenty dollars I ever spent, now I am a happier camper than before.  NOw I have to decide if I want to reinstall the opamps for the headphone section or just use the avr.  The detail on the avr both speakers and headphone is beautiful, I guess if it "ain't broke don't fix it" is what I am doing.  Hope this helped someone that is on the fence to try a little opamp swapping. Of course your milage may vary.  All the best.

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I'm looking to add some 2.0 speakers to my Xonar STX for occasional non-headphone use. I want minimal wiring from a cosmetic point of view. I don't have a receiver or external amp. What are my options? I'd like to keep everything around 250 ± 50. It's mostly for entertaining guests, I'm not hugely worried about the sound quality.


Edited by Eric M - 7/6/13 at 2:27pm
post #4537 of 4837
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Originally Posted by Eric M View Post

I'm looking to add some 2.0 speakers to my Xonar STX for occasional non-headphone use. I want minimal wiring from a cosmetic point of view. I don't have a receiver or external amp. What are my options?

Be helpful if you listed a budget.

post #4538 of 4837
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

Be helpful if you listed a budget.

Doh! I've added that I'd like to keep it around 250ish

post #4539 of 4837
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Originally Posted by connieflyer View Post

Just wanted to relay what my experience has been with opamps.  I am using Sennheiser HD650 headphones straight thru the xonar stx.  I have the rca outputs going to a Harmon-Kardon avr 510,connected to Electrovoice Sentry V's.  Sounds real nice thru either but we all want a little more.  If I use the headphones thru the receiver the sound is not quite as good as what I hear through the headphone out on the xonar itself.  So most of my listening has been thru the head out jack.  Reading here on the opamps, I finally decided to give it a go.  I bought 3LME49720NA dual opamps and just installed no problem.  The difference for me was clear.  The soundstage seemed a bit larger, but the sound seemed a bit thin. The bass was well defined as was the treble and midrange, but just a little less life to it.  I listened to hd flac, mp3, wav all were the same. On occasion would hear a little sibiance that never showed up with the stock opamps. Listened to all kinds of music for a few hours, and decided to go back to stock opamps, but before I did I put on the avr, and tried the sound on it.  Wow, what a difference in the sound on the line out, even the wife had to come back and listened a bit to the difference.  So naturally I figured I better try the headphone out on the avr, again, big difference from the stock opamps. Now using the Senns thru the headphone jack on the receiver, I have what I was looking for. More openness better and more detailed bass, treble, headphones sounded so realistic I spent another two hours going through as much varied material as I had, just to make sure it was good to go on all types of music, and it is.  Best  twenty dollars I ever spent, now I am a happier camper than before.  NOw I have to decide if I want to reinstall the opamps for the headphone section or just use the avr.  The detail on the avr both speakers and headphone is beautiful, I guess if it "ain't broke don't fix it" is what I am doing.  Hope this helped someone that is on the fence to try a little opamp swapping. Of course your milage may vary.  All the best.
AVR??? Sorry for the noob question but what is it.
post #4540 of 4837

Would the RCA outs from the Xonar to the RCA ins on a powered studio monitor like this work? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051WAM64/

post #4541 of 4837
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Originally Posted by Eric M View Post

Would the RCA outs from the Xonar to the RCA ins on a powered studio monitor like this work? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051WAM64/

Yes.

post #4542 of 4837
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Originally Posted by xeizo View Post

Still happy with my LME49990 in the buffer and two LM4562NA/NOPB in the I/V using RCA-out, 

Hmm seriously considering getting the 49990 for the buffer , with that setup how harsh and bright is it , or has it removed that from the STX sound ? also how is the sound stage ? thanks

post #4543 of 4837

An avr is just short for audio video receiver.  No question is a "noob"  we all had to start somewhere, I just did, well fifty years ago!

post #4544 of 4837
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Originally Posted by mrlimbo View Post

Hmm seriously considering getting the 49990 for the buffer , with that setup how harsh and bright is it , or has it removed that from the STX sound ? also how is the sound stage ? thanks

Not harsh at all, not bright nor dark, only very neutral with extremely high resolution, a surprisingly punchy bass, a very 3D soundstage and with pinpoint precision imaging! As I said, I'm very happy and my focus has totally changed into improving other parts of the soundchain ie some ultimate desktop monitors :-)

I've done direct comparisons with the highly regarded Xonar DX as it sits in the same box and it sounds very flat, synthetic and lifeless in comparison. Before I changed OP:s I didn't think it was much of a difference, only slightly better for the stock ST over the DX. I'm only talking RCA out here, I haven't explored the headphone out on the ST much.

Some have voiced concern over the LME49990:s getting very hot, and so it may be, but my Essence ST sits in a server that is on 24/7 and so far(two months or so) it has been working 100% with no artifacts or strange behaviour so it seems it can handle the heat.
post #4545 of 4837
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Originally Posted by xeizo View Post


Not harsh at all, not bright nor dark, only very neutral with extremely high resolution, a surprisingly punchy bass, a very 3D soundstage and with pinpoint precision imaging! As I said, I'm very happy and my focus has totally changed into improving other parts of the soundchain ie some ultimate desktop monitors :-)

I've done direct comparisons with the highly regarded Xonar DX as it sits in the same box and it sounds very flat, synthetic and lifeless in comparison. Before I changed OP:s I didn't think it was much of a difference, only slightly better for the stock ST over the DX. I'm only talking RCA out here, I haven't explored the headphone out on the ST much.

Some have voiced concern over the LME49990:s getting very hot, and so it may be, but my Essence ST sits in a server that is on 24/7 and so far(two months or so) it has been working 100% with no artifacts or strange behaviour so it seems it can handle the heat.

Many thanks for taking the time to reply , pulled the trigger and one is on its way :)

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