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post #1 of 15
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I'm sure some of you know that I don't particularly like the K701 due to it's "dry" sound (or rather lean sound), but as of late my opinions have changed. When I previously heard the K701, it was through my friends "Little-Dot MKII", and it didn't sound all that great to me. The LD just didn't seem to synergize all that well and sounded somewhat weird. I decided to try it out of my HK400 amp and it sounded kinda lean to me.

This was months ago and I thought I'd give them a second chance. I played them through my Fischer amp and whoah! It sounded much, much better than it did through his amp. More focussed and alive, and I liked the added warmth from the tubes.Then I got an itching and plugged it into my Sansui Integrated amp. Now since the amp is SS it will sound far more neutral/analytical. Once again I was bowled over. The Fisher had a rated power of 16 watts (I think, but was missing stickers with power rating) and the Sansui was rated at 105watts (both into 8ohms). The Sansui seemed to power them better, but the Fischer had a much more full sound in comparison.

(On both amps, I'm using the L/R speaker outs for my headphones. This was achieved by making a 1/4" to bare wire adapter. So it goes from the 1/4" input out to four wires. I did this cause I know I would be getting more power from the speaker outs than the headphone out. I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't advise this though.)

I know my K601 sounds different than the K701, but now I prefer the K701's airiness and resolving power. Plus I love the sound of the mids on these. They sound so clean and detailed.

So now I find myself wanting a K701/K702 and thought I'd drive out to Music Direct and pick them up. So I'm going to go this coming weekend and take another plunge on more unnessecary headphones, but all be it that I said the HD600 would be my last purchase and that was over a year ago. Now I have 22 pairs of headphones and so much gear. Damn it all Head-fi! If only I wasn't bit by the Audiophile bug!

I'll update you all once I purchase them Saturday.

So any recommendations for amps with better synergy ($200-$400)? I know these will need a lot of break in time as I have heard stories of 2000 plus hours.
post #2 of 15
I doubt it's going to require 2000+ hours to break in, mine sounded good after 20 hours. This is my third (or fourth) attempt at using the K701s (now K702) and I think I have a new found appreciation for them. Do a search on the home amp forum, there are a number of threads regarding what amps synergize well with the k701s (Heed, GS-1, etc...). I'm running mine out of an RSA HR-2 and it really sounds good!! Enough so that I am willing to hold off on my purchase of the HD800. It could also be my source and possibly choice of IC's, and aftermarket cable.
post #3 of 15
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Thanks for the reply, and I'll do that. I just figured it would be easier to ask here rather than make a new thread in that section.

I'm stoked for these cans, they will be awesome!
post #4 of 15
another headfier sees the light
post #5 of 15
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Yeah, finally right? I don't know what all the fuss is about with these. I understand if they aren't amped correctly they sound like dookey.

I'm really not all that picky with headphones, just picky on how much I spend on them
post #6 of 15
be sure to check out the X Can v8 at musicdirect, it drives my K701's very well. Would be interesting to get another head-fiers impressions on the combo.
post #7 of 15
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I've heard that also. I hope it's within my price range...
post #8 of 15
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Change of plans! I bought tim3320070's used K701 and am going to Music Direct for an amp on Saturday.
post #9 of 15
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Stupid USPS! I changed my mind and didn't go to Music Direct at all just so I could stay home to insure I got my headphones. So 5:30 rolled around and still nothing so I went to check my mail box. There was a pink slip in there saying I have to pick it up cause nobody was home to receive it. That's totally BS as nobody even rang. My doorbell works perfectly fine as I pushed my bell's button lightly and it rang.

Friggin lazy USPS people. So now it was 5:47 and I got to the post office and their doors were already locked!! I still had 13 minutes! Now I have to wait all weekend cause of them. This just ruined my whole weekend...
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post
The Fisher had a rated power of 16 watts (I think, but was missing stickers with power rating) and the Sansui was rated at 105watts (both into 8ohms). The Sansui seemed to power them better, but the Fischer had a much more full sound in comparison.
This has nothing to do with the power of the headphone output.
post #11 of 15
Will the Ming Da MC 84C07 Pacific Valve & Electric Company Ming Da MC 84C07 have enough power to drive the k701s well? It's rated at 5 Watts, I think. That seems like it would be more than enough. Is what Zombie_X saying that he just likes the sound from those amps, or is he implying that you need that much power?
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by logwed View Post
Will the Ming Da MC 84C07 Pacific Valve & Electric Company Ming Da MC 84C07 have enough power to drive the k701s well? It's rated at 5 Watts, I think. That seems like it would be more than enough. Is what Zombie_X saying that he just likes the sound from those amps, or is he implying that you need that much power?
Again, this has nothing to do with the headphone output. The 5 watt rating there is for the speaker output.

Unless you have an earspeaker (which the K701 is not), 5 watts would make a toasty mess of your voice coils.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by TopPop View Post
Again, this has nothing to do with the headphone output. The 5 watt rating there is for the speaker output.

Unless you have an earspeaker (which the K701 is not), 5 watts would make a toasty mess of your voice coils.
He already wrote he was using the speaker outputs of the amps. I've been doing that for years and have yet to damage a set of phones doing so. They're not as fragile as you might imagine,
post #14 of 15
Oh, jeez, I'm an idiot... it's even in bold type.

Well, I'll be: learn something new every day, huh? Didn't think that was possible without added resistance.
post #15 of 15
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Oh, jeez, I'm an idiot... it's even in bold type.

Well, I'll be: learn something new every day, huh? Didn't think that was possible without added resistance.
It's okay man, happens to all of us.

There definitely is added resistance, but overall the SQ is way better out of the speaker outs. I think the added resistance causes the static I hear, or maybe it's from a higher power output? I'm not sure as this isn't an area of my expertise.
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