Jerry Harvey is back! - Page 12

oh no they're not.. once I have the camera back tomorrow, you'll see mine.. very.... evil

Mine are smoke with black cables.

Still breaking in the 10x3s but they are sounding much, much better. I have to say, I've never heard a phone sound so bad before break in. I'm mean it was truely bad. Really scary. They should include a warning with them.

breaking in via yourself or via actual pink noise?

I'm thinking you just didn't have a good fit with them and it took a while for your ear to adjust to its shape. Mine have little to no break in. They sounded great right off the bat, and still do.

strangelove.

Are the JH 10x3 the first customs you've ever had?

If so, likely the "horrible sound" you initially experienced is the strange feeling of customs that takes some getting used to. After you get used to it, you start to relax and everything opens up, feels, and sounds better.

So, really people's ears that need to break in. Kind of like breaking in a new pair of shoes.

I would disagree with that. I have custom molded ear plugs that are molded exactly the same. Had them for 8yrs and wear them regularly. In fact they go into my ears even deeper. I don't think me needing to get used to them was the problem at all. And I definitely had a good seal. Also, your ear canals really don't "loosen up". You might get more used to the feeling of having them in, but that's desensitization. I would argue it has nothing to do with your ear canals stretching or relaxing. The ear canal is made up of cartilage (at least the outer part) surrounded by very minimal soft tissue. There isn't really anything to "give". And as long as you have a proper seal the comfort of the fit shouldn't effect the sound quality.

This is true burn in effect. They sounded like crap. I let them burn in for around 24hrs. After 24hrs of burn in they sounded immediately better as soon as I put them in. Didn't take any getting used to. It was immediate.

That being said the left fit is a little off. I'm getting a full seal but it is putting excessive force on the base of my tragus and the tip at the posterior inferior canal. The right side fit is perfect.

Unfortunately I still find them a bit bright for my liking. I got the 10x3s because the 13s sounded too flat to me and I wanted that brightness, but with the customs now they're even brighter than the universal fits. If I break the seal a bit the brightness gets better so I don't think I was getting a good fit when I tested the universals. Hopefully I'll get used to it. On my Zune it isn't too bad but on my home setup it's very noticible. They have a very prominent upper mid hump with the rest of the mids sounding slightly thin. The good news is all the harshness, sibilance, and muddiness is better.

Getting used to them is needed on your first pair they feel very weird when putting them in the first few times also the motion of inserting and taking them out is awkward until you get it down.

Is there a link where I can see the JH colors?

No, you have to tell him what colour you want based on other customs you may have seen here or other websites. You can get some ideas here:http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f103/c...m-iems-388815/

Hey thanks. I had missed that thread.

i'm getting a transparent deep 'midnight purple' like a transparent purple black. gonna be sweet. decided to get something a little different as I originally wanted light blue, but i'm feeling there are too many of them

So as a business school student, I'm thinking about this, and I'm wondering what Jerry Harvey's main contribution to JHAudio is. What I mean is, what does he do better than anyone else in the industry?

Is it:
1) marketing reputation/savvy, having started UE and having all the high-level contacts?
2) product development knowledge, being at the forefront of new advancements in the field?
3) marketing/sales support, being awesome at customer service and keeping his customers happy?
4) other?

Thoughts? If you could hire Jerry Harvey to your new audio company to do just one thing, what would it be?

He's probably number 2. Its probably almost impossible to sell 1099 dollar earphones just by savvy marketing afaik. Number 3 is a ridiculous suggestion.

EDIT: poster below has a good point. Number 3 may not be that ridiculous but I still don't see it the main factor. Adequate customer service would suffice and I dunno how much of an effect filtering down from artists has. It's not particularly common knowledge

1 and 3 are a bit linked- rock stars may not be as particular about '6 driver vs 3 driver', and might just want someone who speaks their language (Jerry seems to have street cred among that group) and gives them what they want.

If you nail that top-tier market (by excelling first and foremost at #3), you then gain from having that reputation and gain an advantage at marketing (#1), which is what seems to be happening to UE right now as they move downstream/ down market.

I didn't mean, 'hire Jerry Harvey for a top-tier audio company', necessarily. I meant hire JH to make the most money for you. That might mean a mass market company (which is probably what Logitech thought..)

PS, for #2, I was just thinking that you could easily have the best sound engineer in the world come design IEMs, but would that guarantee good sales? There would only ever be one "Jerry Harvey". So just like a substantial % of what you pay for in a can of Coke is in the branding, I wonder how much of what we're excited about 'Jerry Harvey is back!' is about marketing, rather than actual product development savvy?

I got my JH13 Pro! It is perfect, comparing with my other custom IEM! Thanks Jerry!