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What are the Classic PCDP's Going For?

post #1 of 160
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I was thinking that there are many newer members here at Head-Fi who are trying to build their collection of good sounding "Classic" PCDP's. It is hard to know what the correct price is for some of them (D-25, D-35, D-211, D-303, D-311, 321, D-555, D-777, D-E905, Denon PCDP's, etc) as they appear to surface infrequently. It would be very interesting to know what Head-Fi members have paid or opinions as to what the prices should be.

Thanks,

amadeus-mozart
post #2 of 160
d-777 that I saw recently went for 200. You can expect about the same or even more.
post #3 of 160
I watched a lot of eBay auctions earlier this summer, and this is the general sense I get...here's approximately what you'll buy them for:

D-25 - $50-$100+ (variable depending on whether it's eBay or not)
D-35 - $75
D-211 - $75
D-303 - $175 (can be found more expensive or much cheaper)
D-311 - $225
D-555 - $150
D-777 - $175
D-E905 - $225
Denon DCP-100 - $100-$150
Denon DCP-150 - never seen sold


The D-25 isn't worth any thing more than $40 to me. The D-303 is probably worth more than it sometimes goes for because it has the best line out this side of the high Denon DCPs. The 100 and 150 both are supposedly great through the line-out. The 777 and E905 are prized for their combination of portability and excellent sound, and are probably worth what they sell for. The D-311 probably has the best combination of headphone out and line out sound and is worth it for that reason.

The D-303 may be the best value, because sometimes is goes for real cheap. Getting it for anything under $100 is a steal (and it's gone for that cheap). It's not portable though. Go for the D-777 for portability since it's a bit more available and less coveted than the E905.

That's my...11 cents or so.
post #4 of 160
I agree with amadeus. I think we should have a sticky thread just listing commonly recommended classic PCDPs and maybe even used HDD players with price ranges for each. The prices could be updated a couple of times a year maybe to account for any fluctuations.

Not knowing the score, a newbie is at a real disadvantage and may pay too much in an auction for one of these classic players. While that may be nice for the seller, it does seem a bit unfair. Also, it would avoid these "how much is it worth" posts that seem to pop up frequently.

I mostly agree with strohmie on the prices except I would go a bit higher on the D-311 and a bit lower on the D-303, D-777, and D-E905, probably by about $25. In addition:

D-321: $80 +/- $20 (although not as many have recommended this one)

DCP-150: $225 +/- $25

Note that if you really want to win an auction you will probably have to bid a bit higher than these numbers, especially if you don't snipe.
post #5 of 160
D-22 for $41 Aussie (about $27US). Not a top-end old school PCDP, but damn it I have never heard CDs sounding so good.

The D-22 is certainly worth the measly few bucks you pay for it.

Maybe we could get ~50 or so Head-Fiers list the price they bought their PCDP for, take a mean average and sticky that?
post #6 of 160
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Originally posted by strohmie
I watched a lot of eBay auctions earlier this summer, and this is the general sense I get...here's approximately what you'll buy them for:

D-25 - $50-$100+ (variable depending on whether it's eBay or not)
D-35 - $75
D-211 - $75
D-303 - $175 (can be found more expensive or much cheaper)
D-311 - $225
D-555 - $150
D-777 - $175
D-E905 - $225
Denon DCP-100 - $100-$150
Denon DCP-150 - never seen sold


The D-25 isn't worth any thing more than $40 to me. The D-303 is probably worth more than it sometimes goes for because it has the best line out this side of the high Denon DCPs. The 100 and 150 both are supposedly great through the line-out. The 777 and E905 are prized for their combination of portability and excellent sound, and are probably worth what they sell for. The D-311 probably has the best combination of headphone out and line out sound and is worth it for that reason.

The D-303 may be the best value, because sometimes is goes for real cheap. Getting it for anything under $100 is a steal (and it's gone for that cheap). It's not portable though. Go for the D-777 for portability since it's a bit more available and less coveted than the E905.

That's my...11 cents or so.
I haven't heard the D-211, 311 or D-E905, but agree pretty much with the valuations of the rest. There's some interunit variability. My current D-555 sounds much better than my previous one did, at least to my ears. However, it's also less tolerant to shock and doesn't like 80 min disks. I'd upgrade it simply for the sound, nevertheless.

My DCP-150 was bought off of Ebay Germany for about $150 once shipping was included. I haven't seen any since then, but stopped looking hard once I had one. Based strictly on sonics compared to other pcdps, I'd estimate value at around $250. It's got the most coherent sound I've heard from a pcdp.
post #7 of 160
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Originally posted by strohmie
D-25 - $50-$100+ (variable depending on whether it's eBay or not)
D-35 - $75
D-211 - $75
D-303 - $175 (can be found more expensive or much cheaper)
D-311 - $225
D-555 - $150
D-777 - $175
D-E905 - $225
Denon DCP-100 - $100-$150
Denon DCP-150 - never seen sold
That sounds about right. I happen to think that the D-25 is slightly under-valued.

And I'd trade my primo D-777 for a good condition D-211!!
post #8 of 160
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Mystyler
D-22 for $41 Aussie (about $27US). Not a top-end old school PCDP, but damn it I have never heard CDs sounding so good.

The D-22 is certainly worth the measly few bucks you pay for it.

Maybe we could get ~50 or so Head-Fiers list the price they bought their PCDP for, take a mean average and sticky that?
Good idea! Though there will always be a low and high price paid, if enough people post what they have paid we should be able to get a pretty accurate figure.

I've gotten most of my players on eBay and a few at garage sales.

Sony PCDP's

D-2 eBay $20
D-7DX eBay $35.00
D-11 eBay $20
D-20 eBay $20
D-25S Silicon Salvage.eBay $50 delivered
D-33 eBay about $30
D-34 eBay about $20
D-66 eBay $20 WAS DEAD
D-111 eBay $25.00
D-121 eBay $20
D-131 eBay $20
D-141 eBay $30 (New)
D-151 eBay about $15
D-171 eBay $15 MOSTLY DEAD
D-321 eBay $50
D-E500 was $85 in duty free
D-E775 was agout $20 on eBay THIS ONE IS VERY GOOD SOUNDING
Aiwa XP-33 eBay $30.00
Kenwood D-42 eBay $25
Denon DCP-70 eBay $35.00
Technics SL-XP300 (18 Bit DAC's) eBay $35.00

Sony PMDP'S

MZ-R55 eBay New $150.00
MR=R70 about $200 in Germany Now DEAD
MZ-R90 about $75 on eBay

AM
post #9 of 160
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Re: What are the Classic PCDP's Going For?

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Originally posted by amadeus-mozart
I was thinking that there are many newer members here at Head-Fi who are trying to build their collection of good sounding "Classic" PCDP's. It is hard to know what the correct price is for some of them (D-25, D-35, D-211, D-303, D-311, 321, D-555, D-777, D-E905, Denon PCDP's, etc) as they appear to surface infrequently. It would be very interesting to know what Head-Fi members have paid or opinions as to what the prices should be.

Thanks,

amadeus-mozart
Recently on eBay

Denon DCP-70 $35.00
Sony D-321 $40.00 and $62.00

AM
post #10 of 160
Could you post links for those D-321s? I seem to be missing a lot on Ebay these days. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Was "D-321" actually in the title for those auctions. I have been checking both the US/UK/Canada and the German Ebay and I haven't seen any D-321s for a while.
post #11 of 160
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Gojira
Could you post links for those D-321s? I seem to be missing a lot on Ebay these days. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Was "D-321" actually in the title for those auctions. I have been checking both the US/UK/Canada and the German Ebay and I haven't seen any D-321s for a while.
There aren't any D-321's on now. A lot of good stuff is currently or recently on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ory=15054&rd=1

The seller doesn't always list the model number.

AM
post #12 of 160
Here's a sampling of what's currently on ebay that no one is really bidding on yet....

D-202

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ory=14975&rd=1

D-303, strictly German shipping only, I won this earlier and seller refused to ship to me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ory=19609&rd=1
post #13 of 160
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The seller doesn't always list the model number.
So how did you find it? By going through every "discman" and "portable CD" listing? That's really time consuming.
post #14 of 160
How do you search ebay listings that aren't in the US?
post #15 of 160
Hello Gojira, I usually do a "Sony Discman" search, title only, and with "located anywhere" selected on the advanced search option. This usually pulls up most of the sony players that are listed with or without the model number. After doing a good onetime search on this, I then do another a few days later just checking the "recently listed" auctions. This usually covers listed items that are located anywhere in the world. But if you want to really check whats listed, go to Ebay's foreign webpage (links on ebay's home page to all of these.) Then go to portable cd player link by clicking through the categories...Audio/Hi Fi-->Tragbare CD Sony for the Germany site. Then click on all of the listings of interest. Very time consuming but I've struck gold on a few. Most recently this auction...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3345756034

MDR-E484, 20 Euros with shipping...
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