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post #976 of 1788
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Nice  work.  Keep it stock for a while until you decide you want to change it up.  Get used to it then you'll more readily notice any changes you do. Stock is pretty darned good on those.

Nice advice.  I can't wait.  I sent them express delivery, so expect them soon.

post #977 of 1788
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Took your advice GREQ and bought that T10, I may need help with the mods, any advice on that?

Here's some of the mods I've been playing with: http://www.head-fi.org/t/111193/orthodynamic-roundup/22035#post_9852706

Right now, it's in almost the same configuration.

 

Since I posted that I actually removed the stock damping material and replaced it with some extremely light, fluffy foam - like the stuff you get in super cheap jewellery gift boxes. Seemed to open up the sound and detail a bit more.

 

But I agree with nick n - listen to it stock for a couple of days before modding. It's got a really luxuriously thick but silky midrange. 

The only noticeable problem with the sound before and after modding is that "ss/sh" sounds in cymbals and vocals sound like "sshh/tzshh". 

 

To save you searching, the screw entry points behind the ear-pads at 12, 4 and 8 O'clock.

 

Really glad you bought it. Even if you don't like it, I seriously doubt you'll make a loss when selling it on, so there's really no harm in trying it out.


Edited by GREQ - 10/31/13 at 12:35am
post #978 of 1788

Also, if you know what you're doing, digital EQ achieves by and large the same results as physical mods and without the need to risk damaging the phones.

post #979 of 1788
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Also, if you know what you're doing, digital EQ achieves by and large the same results as physical mods and without the need to risk damaging the phones.

 

^^ This. I wish more people knew this.

post #980 of 1788
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Also, if you know what you're doing, digital EQ achieves by and large the same results as physical mods and without the need to risk damaging the phones.

^^ This. I wish more people knew this.

I think when it comes to EQ a lot of people don't know what they're doing. For a newbie it's not so easy to learn it and even harder to get it right.

post #981 of 1788
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I think when it comes to EQ a lot of people don't know what they're doing. For a newbie it's not so easy to learn it and even harder to get it right.

 

True. If you're serious about sound, you'll learn it. And you are serious about sound or you wouldn't be here, so.

post #982 of 1788
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Also, if you know what you're doing, digital EQ achieves by and large the same results as physical mods and without the need to risk damaging the phones.

 

 

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^^ This. I wish more people knew this.

 

 

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I think when it comes to EQ a lot of people don't know what they're doing. For a newbie it's not so easy to learn it and even harder to get it right.

I'm glad to see multiple posts on this, when I'm on a few of the HP threads using an EQ is like committing a mortal sin.  Growing up in an era of vinyl, 8-tracks and reel to reel I was used to using an EQ.  The more frequency settings the better.  Some of my friends had favorite settings for HP and speaker use, it was just what you did to get the sound you wanted.

post #983 of 1788
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post
 

The Orpheus is actually (objectively) worse than the 009, it's just more euphonic/fun to listen to. As for the SR-Ω... Well can't give any argument because so few people own it that no reviews exist; I'm extremely impressed (and jealous :D) that you've gotten to hear one.

 

But you should realize what you're saying here; Stax is a boutique brand and their products not only go for a LOT more than most of what ends up on the 'bay but they also require special amplification equipment to even be used. Couple that with electostats being an acquired taste that some people just plain won't like and any objective definition for the "best" vintage headphone is complete and total unobtainium.

 

And I'm sorry, but calling this thread a "disgrace" for not having rare, expensive, specialized equipment that few people bought back then is both extremely rude and kind of unreasonble. 

But don't forget the HE90 was sort of a R10/010/HP1k/K1k/L3k we can just do it motto for these companies and it was released over a decade ago, the only headphone that did compete with it was the Omega/T2 combo, so it is unfair to compare the Orpheus to the 009, two very different sounding headphones, complete polar opposites. The 009 representing the best of modern production while the HE90 the old.

 

As with the Omega, let's just say I did more than just listen to it, I owned a pair with original box in mint condition for few months at the start of this year, only selling it off later to the friend who went to arms length of acquiring one for me. 

 

I wouldn't say Stax is a boutique brand, most of the discussed vintage headphones in this thread and particular models, classic Sony's, AKG's etc they are all boutique and discontinued, some even have a strong following and high demand from collectors, such as some of the then TOTL Yamaha orthodynamics or the Sansui SS-100. The vintage Stax lambda don't go for that much more than what you would spend sometimes nearly double for some of the conventional vintage headphones, for less than $400 for a basic Lambda or SR-3/5 with an adaptor to hook up to an integrated amplifier I can definitely guarrantee that you'd be blown away by the unsurpassed extension to treble, highs and mids, clarity and detail retrieval and imaging, bass performance is subjective so I've left that out of the equation.

 

If you're in for < $150 vintage headphones then yeah Stax or stats would be out of your budget.


Edited by DefQon - 10/31/13 at 5:57pm
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Latest ortho addition.
post #985 of 1788

Ah you got those ones!  Nice score. Open them up yet ?

post #986 of 1788

Not yet, any tips?  It would be nice to get them recable.  The LR balance switch kinda makes it sound bad i think.  I need to dial my volume to 2-3 o'clock on my amp. 

post #987 of 1788

ask over in the Ortho roundup thread, and show it off! 

 

There's need to breathe some life in that place it's getting dusty.

If it's anything like the Dual cables then leave that switch the wires are strange.

 But:  a recable removes all that right. 

 

Not very sensitive the driver is 94 rated.  looks the same as the Dual DK830 drivers with the holes all the way out to the edges. Fantastic.  Anyhow if you post up in the other thread we can start getting specifics nailed down.


Edited by nick n - 10/31/13 at 10:44pm
post #988 of 1788
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Originally Posted by RUMAY408 View Post

 

I'm glad to see multiple posts on this, when I'm on a few of the HP threads using an EQ is like committing a mortal sin.  Growing up in an era of vinyl, 8-tracks and reel to reel I was used to using an EQ.  The more frequency settings the better.  Some of my friends had favorite settings for HP and speaker use, it was just what you did to get the sound you wanted.

 

It gets quite odd how far some are willing to go to empty their wallets or to make things more difficult. Refusing EQ categorically is as curious as refusing to adjust the volume on your system, trying instead to find and buy headphones that play at just the right level for this or that youtube video.

post #989 of 1788
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It gets quite odd how far some are willing to go to empty their wallets or to make things more difficult. Refusing EQ categorically is as curious as refusing to adjust the volume on your system, trying instead to find and buy headphones that play at just the right level for this or that youtube video.

very true. Saying "i dont use eq" is the headfi version of e-peen. ridiculous.

post #990 of 1788

I have a love/hate relationship with EQ.

 

With my loudspeakers it's love - because I've only got two sets of speakers connected to my amp and 12-band EQ. 

One set of speakers benefits greatly from my personal EQ tweaks, and the other set I like to leave flat. So it's perfect. Almost no fiddling about - just one button to turn it on or off.

 

With headphones, it's just hate - because I have to set up a digital EQ for each headphone (because I have many more) and keep switching between them every time I chose a different headphone, which is more fiddly than simply pushing the on/off button on the 12-band EQ.

 

The other reason is that the 12-band analogue EQ just sounds great. I really like the response I get from it, despite it being over 30 years old.

Digital EQ however (even a half decent one on foobar) just sounds like poo. I don't know why, but it just seems to suck the life out of the music, like a strange digital filter. 

 

I'm probably 'doing it wrong' but I've never felt too strongly about it to 'do it right' either, as I'm super happy with my physical headphone mods and leaving EQ flat.


Edited by GREQ - 11/1/13 at 2:35pm
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