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post #1036 of 1267
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Sony DR-Z7, absolutely mint, just received today. Bought from someone who stored them in a closet for 40 years at quite a large premium...

 

100% die-cast aluminum with a gorgeous silver finish, these photos don't do it justice. In person they almost appear to glow.

 

The incredibly beautiful dimpled-dome driver, huge (53mm) and coated in palladium. Non-resonant SBMC frame. Left is DR-Z6, right is DR-Z7.

 

Top-shelf sound, better than anything I've ever owned or heard. I regret nothing; these headphones will stay with me for my entire life.

 

Do you like them more then Z6? 

More than the Z6, more than my TH600, and more than the NAD RP18 that I (unfortunately) had to sell to get them. 

 

They're not like other headphones, they're not going to "wow" you with an insanely huge soundstage or laser-etched imaging, but what they will do is provide ridiculously good transients as well as a nice, neutral, transparent sound signature. You can discern everything, you can hear everything, if it's there in the recording they will render it flawlessly. I've thrown the densest cluster****s of music at them, and they separate it all out effortlessly. It is also the only dynamic in existence that manages to be so fast and yet is completely devoid of any harshness, splashiness, or distortion. And, while their bass isn't particularly prominent, they do something I've never heard before; they provide impact not only on the low end but throughout the entire frequency spectrum, which is more than satisfying for any of my bass heavy songs. If there's bass in the track, these things will slam like no tomorrow.

 

The Z6 sounds similar, but with more bass, a bit boomy, and not not nearly as clean. The Z7's bass is more stat-like in that it's mostly devoid of bass bloom, which is very unusual for a dynamic. This is probably due to the high rigidity of the diaphragm caused by the palladium coating. 

 

They definitely wouldn't be most people's cup of tea; most people would find them too bright, and some might even get headaches from them, but for me they're a perfect match. They're my favorite headphones of the many I've had the pleasure of listening to, and I don't think anything will ever be able to take that throne from them. 


Edited by takato14 - 1/30/14 at 9:25am
post #1037 of 1267

Where these the DR-Z7's just listed on eBay? If so, I was watching that listing too and almost took the bait. After reading your posts, now I wish I did.

 

 

post #1038 of 1267
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Where these the DR-Z7's just listed on eBay? If so, I was watching that listing too and almost took the bait. After reading your posts, now I wish I did.

When did this happen? I bought them from someone overseas who had contacted me about my WTB listing. I saw a Z7 go for ~$100 without the inner headband about 8 months ago but since then I've kept an extremely watchful eye on eBay. There was a Z6 listed a few days ago, perhaps that's what you saw?

 

I mean I wouldn't doubt that one showed up since I just dropped half a kilobuck on my pair, that sort of thing usually happens to me, but it's not in eBay's records nor is it currently up for sale.

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=Sony+DR-Z&LH_PrefLoc=2&rt=nc

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=Sony+DR-Z&LH_PrefLoc=2&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc


Edited by takato14 - 1/30/14 at 8:36am
post #1039 of 1267

Yup, I stand corrected. The ones I was referring to are these:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-DR-Z6-Headphones-Vintage-drz6-z7-drz7-/171224305302?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item27ddc38e96

 

Comparing the pics, yours look nicer too.

post #1040 of 1267
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Originally Posted by takato14 View Post
 

More than the Z6, more than my TH600, and more than the NAD RP18 that I (unfortunately) had to sell to get them. 

 

They're not like other headphones, they're not going to "wow" you with an insanely huge soundstage or laser-etched imaging, but what they will do is provide ridiculously good transients as well as a nice, neutral, transparent sound signature. You can discern everything, you can hear everything, if it's there in the recording they will render it flawlessly. I've thrown the densest cluster****s of music at them, and they separate it all out effortlessly. It is also the only dynamic in existence that manages to be so fast and yet is completely devoid of any harshness, splashiness, or distortion. And, while their bass isn't particularly prominent, they do something I've never heard before; they provide impact not only on the low end but throughout the entire frequency spectrum, which is more than satisfying for any of my bass heavy songs. If there's bass in the track, these things will slam like no tomorrow.

 

The Z6 sounds similar, but with more bass, a bit boomy, and not not nearly as clean. The Z7's bass is more stat-like in that it's mostly devoid of bass bloom, which is very unusual for a dynamic. This is probably due to the high rigidity of the diaphragm caused by the palladium coating. 

 

They definitely wouldn't be most people's cup of tea; most people would find them too bright, and some might even get headaches from them, but for me they're a perfect match. They're my favorite headphones of the many I've had the pleasure of listening to, and I don't think anything will ever be able to take that throne from them. 

Lol why the heck did you buy a TH600? You'd be the last person I'd consider buying anything new for that matter. Worse piece of crap I've heard in a long while since the discontinued Denon D range. Yeah I'd agree with the Z7 not going to wow you on first go, in fact I'd say none of the Z5, Z6 is going to wow you on first go but it's got a bit of a bright tint to the treble that is sort of hazy, evident on classical music if you listen to that. An amp that would suit the Z range when I had them was and is the same amp that makes the SA3k sound quite good and that is the Lehmann BCL or clones you see on ebay, really brings them alive if you want to keep them. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it sounded fine out the M-Stage as well. Other than the R10, the CD, Z and SA series all benefit from an amp such as the BCL or M-Stage, pairing tubes is something I have not found to combo well with the Sony's. One reason I would say the Z7 is devoid from bass bloom would be its slight tilt of bright tonality. 

post #1041 of 1267
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More than the Z6, more than my TH600, and more than the NAD RP18 that I (unfortunately) had to sell to get them. 

They're not like other headphones, they're not going to "wow" you with an insanely huge soundstage or laser-etched imaging, but what they will do is provide ridiculously good transients as well as a nice, neutral, transparent sound signature. You can discern everything, you can hear everything, if it's there in the recording they will render it flawlessly. I've thrown the densest cluster****s of music at them, and they separate it all out effortlessly. It is also the only dynamic in existence that manages to be so fast and yet is completely devoid of any harshness, splashiness, or distortion. And, while their bass isn't particularly prominent, they do something I've never heard before; they provide impact not only on the low end but throughout the entire frequency spectrum, which is more than satisfying for any of my bass heavy songs. If there's bass in the track, these things will slam like no tomorrow.

The Z6 sounds similar, but with more bass, a bit boomy, and not not nearly as clean. The Z7's bass is more stat-like in that it's mostly devoid of bass bloom, which is very unusual for a dynamic. This is probably due to the high rigidity of the diaphragm caused by the palladium coating. 

They definitely wouldn't be most people's cup of tea; most people would find them too bright, and some might even get headaches from them, but for me they're a perfect match. They're my favorite headphones of the many I've had the pleasure of listening to, and I don't think anything will ever be able to take that throne from them. 
Lol why the heck did you buy a TH600? You'd be the last person I'd consider buying anything new for that matter. Worse piece of crap I've heard in a long while since the discontinued Denon D range. Yeah I'd agree with the Z7 not going to wow you on first go, in fact I'd say none of the Z5, Z6 is going to wow you on first go but it's got a bit of a bright tint to the treble that is sort of hazy, evident on classical music if you listen to that. An amp that would suit the Z range when I had them was and is the same amp that makes the SA3k sound quite good and that is the Lehmann BCL or clones you see on ebay, really brings them alive if you want to keep them. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it sounded fine out the M-Stage as well. Other than the R10, the CD, Z and SA series all benefit from an amp such as the BCL or M-Stage, pairing tubes is something I have not found to combo well with the Sony's. One reason I would say the Z7 is devoid from bass bloom would be its slight tilt of bright tonality. 
I didn't buy the TH600, it was a Christmas gift. The TH600 is a great can, it's just entirely different from most of what I've heard. It's fast enough to satisfy my transient fix and it has a pleasant tonality, so I can live with the slightly messy highs. It's not meant to be perfect, it's meant to be enjoyable, and in that regard it's better than anything else modern I've heard.

The Z drivers ARE modified speaker cones so I'm leaning more towards current-driven amplifiers as opposed to voltage-driven. Tubes are voltage driven so I'm staying away from them. Any top flight solid states you'd recommend? I was looking at an O2 but since it's battery powered I don't think it'll push enough current to satisfy them completely; I'm of course looking to stay within a budget for now but I also want something to save for that'll bring them to the best they can be.
Edited by takato14 - 1/30/14 at 7:19pm
post #1042 of 1267
My previous recommendation is exactly for that purpose for mention Sony headphones. Low z requires more current whereas high z requires more voltage to be driven efficiently. There are Lehmann clones on ebay for 120-150 and get the one with a gain toggle, they sound superb. Not all tube amps are suited for high z high and peak to peak voltage amps, something such as the Bottlehead Sex or Mainline should drive the Sony's fine, avoid OTL stuff for low z.

Totl SS that I've had good exp with is the Luxman P-1u with my old CD3ks and 950.
post #1043 of 1267

Here's some more pictures...

 

 

The case is interesting, its a very strong paperboard base with thick vinyl strung over it and pressed in place. Think a standard school binder or a VHS tape case, except well, not absolute garbage. 

 

 

Open it up, there's the cans, beautifully presented.

 

 

Extremely sturdy moulded interior.  

 

 

Here I tried as hard as I could to capture their finish. However, even this isn't quite perfect.

 

 

The Sony insignia on the cups is brushed, so it glows in the right lighting.

 

 

Just a glamour shot.

 

 

Black silk earpads. The inside seams are actually mostly intact, which is very rare relative to other pairs.

 

 

The cable is branded with the Sony logo. Very strong cable on these, but still getting the velvet pillow treatment due to past experiences with both the Z5 and Z6...

 

 

Here's the brushed aluminum termination, pretty basic, simple but pretty, shared by all three Z headphones.

 

 

The headband strap is suede on the top, and leather on the bottom. Very thick and strong.

 

 

These things truly are flawless, and I'm going to make sure they stay that way.

 

Cheers.


~Tak


Edited by takato14 - 1/31/14 at 9:43pm
post #1044 of 1267

Wow, Tak those Z7 sure are well taken care of.  The ones I have barely have any lettering on it.  Good for you that you got such in prestine condition.  You should hunt down replacement pads for them because they tend to get loose over time.  I also love the top part of the headband, such soft feel to it.

post #1045 of 1267
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Wow, Tak those Z7 sure are well taken care of.  The ones I have barely have any lettering on it.  Good for you that you got such in prestine condition.  You should hunt down replacement pads for them because they tend to get loose over time.  I also love the top part of the headband, such soft feel to it.

Pads... don't exist, it's unfortunate but true. I'll try calling Sony's warehouse to see if they have any lying around but I'm not hopeful. Right now my next objective is getting a properly designed headphone stand to keep them safe, such as a Sieveking Omega stand. In the meantime, the headphones are staying in their case whenever they're not being used so the pads should be alright for quite some time.

 

I'm really pleased with how pristine they are myself, but man... these were not cheap. There is a price to pay for perfection. 

post #1046 of 1267

$400?

post #1047 of 1267
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$400?

No. Worse.

I realize that I might've overpaid for these, by quite a lot in fact. But, for me, they were worth every cent. I never use anything else much anymore, save for a single listen every now and then. These are the one headphone that I would actually consider getting rid of the rest of my collection for.


Edited by takato14 - 2/1/14 at 9:01am
post #1048 of 1267
Holy Smacks. Highest one I've seen is 400 but not one over it.
post #1049 of 1267

@takato14 - I'm kinda tempted to give you a good telling off for giving into these stupidly increasing high prices for vintage headphones... but after seeing all the fantastic photos, my curiosity being satisfied evens the score. ;)

post #1050 of 1267
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@takato14 - I'm kinda tempted to give you a good telling off for giving into these stupidly increasing high prices for vintage headphones... but after seeing all the fantastic photos, my curiosity being satisfied evens the score. ;)

To be fair, it was only $435, but the shipping charge brought it up to $500 because it came from the Netherlands. So while it was indeed worse than what DefQon said, it wasn't by a significant amount.

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