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BUDGET headphone that has severely rolled off treble?

post #1 of 17
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Hi.

If you have perused Member's Lounge lately you probably saw my Tinnitus thread. It's becoming a real bitch and I don't know what symptoms (if any, knock on wood) are permanent. But, either way the symptoms are getting worse and it seems anything above about 3-5kHz (very rough guess) is now starting to bother me. I get that "tin can" or "tin foil" sensation and then it's all downhill from there. It's really hard to describe. That being said I can't go without music... this condition is depressing enough without completely losing my freakin' tunes!

SO.

What i'm looking for is something < 100$ US.
I would like the phones to be something that:
1) Has very rolled-off treble freuqnecy response, or;
2) Treble response is only somewhat rolled or not at all but is not fatiguing.

For reference I use an SR80 at work. I had no trouble with it in the past but it is now painful with certain recordings. My other portable gear is in my sig.

EDIT: I think a good way to think of this is to assume the purchaser (me) is essentially allergic to treble.

Ideas?
post #2 of 17
Can you use speakers? I find them gentler on the ears than headphones.

Also, have you considered building a low pass filter for your headphones? With just a few parts, you can cut off all frequencies above whatever frequency you want. I'd go with a low pass filter myself; you'd get the cutoff exactly where you want, you'll get to use the same headphones you already like, and building a filter costs a whole lot less than a new pair of headphones. IIRC, you just need one capacitor and one resistor per channel. If you couldn't build one, someone in the DIY Forum can.
post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post
Can you use speakers? I find them gentler on the ears than headphones.

Also, have you considered building a low pass filter for your headphones? With just a few parts, you can cut off all frequencies above whatever frequency you want. I'd go with a low pass filter myself; you'd get the cutoff exactly where you want, you'll get to use the same headphones you already like, and building a filter costs a whole lot less than a new pair of headphones. IIRC, you just need one capacitor and one resistor per channel. If you couldn't build one, someone in the DIY Forum can.
In my current setup (at work) speakers are basically a no-no.

You got an audible "woah!" from me on the low-pass filter bit. I vaguely remember having something like that before but I had no idea it could be that effective. thanks
post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by Sduibek View Post
In my current setup (at work) speakers are basically a no-no.

You got an audible "woah!" from me on the low-pass filter bit. I vaguely remember having something like that before but I had no idea it could be that effective. thanks
Why not just EQ?
post #5 of 17
Will IEM's work for you? If so, then the description pretty much screams the Shure line. You should be able to find SCL4's for under $100 still so try those.
post #6 of 17
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Does the E3c count? I have those... maybe I shoulkd just start using them again...
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by MaloS View Post
Why not just EQ?
My player (see sig) can't drop frequencies, it can only boost them.

Values are 0 -> 12
post #8 of 17
Rockbox gives you an option in the EQ menu to adjust the frequency cutoffs, which would be a valuable tool for you.
post #9 of 17
+1 for rockbox
ADDED: also your symptoms are more likely to get worse/ remain permanent if you continue using headphones. It might be more fulfilling in the end to starve yourself a few months in order to heal perfectly.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Sduibek View Post
My player (see sig) can't drop frequencies, it can only boost them.

Values are 0 -> 12
Boost lows/mids, reduce volume.

Also on the suggestion above - letting your ears rest a while. That is a good idea. Also with Grados you will get constant desire to turn things up which probably further makes things unhappier. I know I was getting loudness attacks from MS1 (I don't use them so much anymore, switched to IEMs for low volume listening exclusively).
post #11 of 17
Just add a low pass to your music player.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by LingLing1337 View Post
Rockbox gives you an option in the EQ menu to adjust the frequency cutoffs, which would be a valuable tool for you.
Heck yeah! I forgot about Rockbox because it ruins the battery life. I will probably go this route, though, because of that feature. Awesome

RE: the volume suggestion(s), I already do lower it. I have the volume at about 50% of what I used to, depending on recording hotness and all that. Sometimes lower. Still doesn't help on treble-heavy albums (mostly rock and metal stuff).
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by Jewmeister View Post
+1 for rockbox
ADDED: also your symptoms are more likely to get worse/ remain permanent if you continue using headphones. It might be more fulfilling in the end to starve yourself a few months in order to heal perfectly.
Yeah I was doing that about 50/50 on purpose and accidental -- I couldn't find my music player after moving

That is a good point, though. I should shelf it for a while. It's gotten pretty bad... I will be seeing an Audiologist in the next week or two (once my car is out of the shop) and am hoping they can do something. From my thread on it and just some testing I think it might actually be my jaw (misaligned or clenching teeth regularly) or my neck (I crack my neck a lot due to lots of "tweaked" vertabrae and neck tension).

So re: the lack of transportation... once I get my car back i'll be seeing an Audiologist and chiropractor and also my dentist.

EDIT: My insurance coverage sucks for chiropractic visits and i'm unsure if they'll cover the Audiologist or how much. This gives a whole different angle to the "Sorry about your wallet" tagline...
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by MaloS View Post
Boost lows/mids, reduce volume.
Yes, of course. That will have the desired effect and your current player is capable of it... why bother with an outboard solution?
post #15 of 17
MS-1 definitely gave me loudness pangs before MS-1000 mod. Really harsh on high, powerful vocals... and especially because they are the greatest at loud volumes.
Clever idea Malos, but I still think the rockbox EQ is better, and any player IMO that can use rockbox, should.
Also a medical note on tinnitus: tinnitus, is not a disease, it is almost always a symptom, the closest thing being a damaged eardrum... Have you seen a doctor yet, taken antibiotics?
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