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post #136 of 277
Thread Starter 

Put the Isoclean fuse back in the Woo 3+. Isoclean is still the King of fuses. IMO I would start with the Isoclean first. HFT's are better than stock but that is it.

post #137 of 277

So, I have been conducting some tests comparing boutique fuses to some other options, namely thermal breakers and other types of resettable fuses. My current favorite is the Potter & Brumfield W28, which absolutely blows traditional *AND BOUTIQUE* ceramic and glass fuses out of the water. I'm also looking at PTCs for digital equipment, where current draw is less and finding huge gains there as well. Has anyone else experimented with these superior upgrades? I know others that also prefer these thermal breakers to traditional fuses, including Jon Risch, so this isn't really a new idea. 

 

I know there are some people that disagree, and I'm willing to discuss some reasons why this might be the case. I think perhaps it has to do with the fact that thermal breakers have less resistance than traditional fuses and thus less restriction in the dynamics and resulting blacker backgrounds and a removal of a haze that I now associate with boutique ceramic and glass fuses. 

 

opinions?

post #138 of 277
Thread Starter 

How do they sound compared to the others you have tested?

post #139 of 277

IMO the threads on god-awful expensive power cables and interconnects and how they contribute an improvement in sound are unbelievable enough. But fuses? Boutique fuses? At $40 a pop? I gotta' believe P.T. Barnum was right.

post #140 of 277
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Originally Posted by fatcat28037 View Post

IMO the threads on god-awful expensive power cables and interconnects and how they contribute an improvement in sound are unbelievable enough. But fuses? Boutique fuses? At $40 a pop? I gotta' believe P.T. Barnum was right.


What blows my mind is people go to all this effort without using audiophile air.

 

Air is the most important part of the chaine, because without it, there is no music. So, why people play music on the stagnant air in their home, instead of premium fresh air from the tops of famous mountains, like Everest etc is beyond me.

 

Sure cables make a night and day difference, but only if you have audiophile air to hear them.

post #141 of 277
Thread Starter 

If you haven't tried them why are you being so negative? I have 4 of them. And I swap them in my Woo. They all have their own sound.
 

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Originally Posted by fatcat28037 View Post

IMO the threads on god-awful expensive power cables and interconnects and how they contribute an improvement in sound are unbelievable enough. But fuses? Boutique fuses? At $40 a pop? I gotta' believe P.T. Barnum was right.

post #142 of 277

^ For the same reason that people comment on amps,dacs, headphones, etc. without listening to them. Opinions based on specs or what the writer imagines, very telling if you ask me.

post #143 of 277

Rather than invoking anecdotes or the TLA whose name cannot be spoke, has anyone measured the differences in outputs from a device using different fuses ?

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Originally Posted by BIG POPPA View Post

If you haven't tried them why are you being so negative? I have 4 of them. And I swap them in my Woo. They all have their own sound.
 



 


OK, you've got all this amplifier circuitry, 6 feet of headphone cable and then the headphone transducers and I'm suppose to believe that a "special" fuse in front of all of this will make an audible change in sound? I just can't believe that, it's not logical. 
 

post #145 of 277

the best fuse is no fuse: imagebam.com

post #146 of 277

This Topic made me think back to my "Way Younger Years" when we use to wrap our blown fuses with aluminum foil, so we could rock on the rest of the evening......Just stupid Kids we(I) was?? How about you Uncle Erik, bring back any memories/ nightmares......  Big Popa, I haven't tried any super fuses!  I'd need 15 of those suckers, In my main system.....!!!!. 


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post #147 of 277
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Originally Posted by nick_charles View Post

...has anyone measured the differences in outputs from a device using different fuses ?

Now you're just being silly . If you've found no significant measurement difference in your cable tests to explain alleged sound differences, there's absolutely no chance of anyone here having the means,skills or inclination to come up with measurements to explain fuse sound differences.
 

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Originally Posted by fatcat28037 View Post

OK, you've got all this amplifier circuitry, 6 feet of headphone cable and then the headphone transducers and I'm suppose to believe that a "special" fuse in front of all of this will make an audible change in sound? I just can't believe that, it's not logical.

It's customary at this point for the sceptic to point out the miles and miles of power cables that come up to your house. I'm surprised you missed that one . I can only guess at the logic, but nothing that would impress a sound scientist. It's back to trusting those ears again.
 

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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

the best fuse is no fuse: 

I absolutely agree with this, but should repeat my earlier warning that death can be fatal.
 

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Originally Posted by 9pintube View Post

Big Popa, I haven't tried any super fuses!  I'd need 15 of those suckers, In my main system.....!!!!. 

But you only need 1 fuse to prove the point (or not). I've just had a look at your impressive hi-fi system list. With what that system must have cost, plus the cables and other "tweaks" you've already got, I would say you're selling your system short if you don't try a fancy fuse - just 1 to start.
 

post #148 of 277

I have read through this tread a couple of times as I have had success with boutique fuses finding them to be an effective tweak.

I am looking for suggestions for a couple of applications:

1.  I have a Music Hall Maverick CD player with a stock 1A slow blow and would like to replace this fuse.  I would like to smooth out a little hardness I have in the upper mids/ lower highs and would like to boost the volume/weight of my bass.  I am leaning toward the Furu but am wondering if the HFT is perhaps the better idea to darken my sound a little and push back the upper mids a touch.

2.  I am using a DV337 with 2 HFT 3A fast blows.  I have been using this value fuse as this is what came with the amp.  I see others using Furu fuses in their DV's and am curious as to whether a slow blow is appropriate in this amp.  If so, what fuse would move me toward my goal of bigger bass and smoother upper mids?  If I must stick with fast blows, would the HFT silvers move me in the right direction?

Thanks

post #149 of 277

 

Originally Posted by TheAttorney View Post

 

I absolutely agree with this, but should repeat my earlier warning that death can be fatal.


No worries, my DAC can either be fed from a wallwart or a DPS...and the DPS already has a fuse of the same value on its output, my guess is that this fuse was here for the wall wart...and redundant, so I shunted it.

post #150 of 277

 

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But you only need 1 fuse to prove the point (or not). I've just had a look at your impressive hi-fi system list. With what that system must have cost, plus the cables and other "tweaks" you've already got, I would say you're selling your system short if you don't try a fancy fuse - just 1 to start.
 


My BAD, as "they say"!!   Yea! I'm a Lucky Guy!!! as far as Equipment goes.....I showed my friend (builder) Chris Ivan those fuses when they 1st came out and his comment, "You Got To Be (BLANK BLANK) kidding me"......"Don't put that (BLANK BLANK) in MY STUFF"   
 

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