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post #16 of 57
The overwhelming bass is there no matter what, with any decent system. It will sound okay if you have a source/amp that is extremely anemic in the bass to balance it out. I don't know where you read that the DT770s are so highly regarded but everyone here regards them as THE headphones for bassheads.

Also, Beyerdynamic's stated frequency range is full of **** as it is. I think all or at least most of their higher end headphones state a 5-35kHz frequency range, but don't state within how many dBs.

Edit: Sorry, I haven't heard any incarnation of the 271 so I can't give any comments about it.
post #17 of 57
I agree with mypasswordis. There are a lot of Heafi-ers who dislike the DT770 Pro. They are really not that high regarded.
I think there is more love for the K271.
And you don't have to be afraid of missing something with the K271. IMO they are more revealing and detailed than the DT770, also in the lower regions.

BTW: I just bought the Sennheiser HD380. Don't know yet what to think of them, but my brief impressions is that they fall nicely between the DT770/80 and the K271.
Maybe you can listen to them in that shop.
Out of the box they clamp like hell though. The famous Sennheiser death grip
post #18 of 57
I've owned both the K271S and the DT770 Pro/80 (twice), and eventually sold them. I haven't heard the newer K271, but I would have to think they're pretty similar to the K271S. If I had to choose between the two another time around, I actually would lean more towards the DT770 Pro/80. The bass can be overbearing with certain recordings, but in my experience, not all. Maybe this can be a plus in some way when you're producing your own music to have some sort of a check that you aren't going overboard with the bass. I know the bass of these headphones isn't perfect, but I don't feel as though it's reproducing signals that aren't there to begin with.

Fortunately, the DT770 Pro/80 is a very good performer at low volumes, and as long as you can contain yourself and not hike up the volume knob, the listening experience can be a lot better with these headphones at low volume.

The K271 is a terrific "mostly"-round headphone, but the bass is somewhat anemic, and, as already pointed out in this thread, they're a bit overly polite. If you can do with an open headphone, you might consider the K601. Otherwise, my vote would go for the DT770 Pro/80.
post #19 of 57
I have tried several phones since getting my DT770s, and I tend to like the alternatives for a while but always come back to the 770s. They remain my favorite phones. Something may displace them eventually, but it will take something really special.

The best way I can think of to put it is that other phones are good at specific things but the DT770 pros are good a everything.
post #20 of 57
intoart, have you tried plugging up a portion of the bass ports on your DT770/80 with something like bluetak? Curious what you'd think of them without the overblown bass. I wanted to mod my father's DT770/80 for better sound but he wouldn't have any of it. I did try the bluetak mod and it did help, though.
post #21 of 57
Thread Starter 
Ok guys, I've been contemplating back and forth on which set of cans to get after listening to both for about an hour or so today, and I've landed on the AKG K271 MKII!

All the input and information given by everyone here has been greatly appreciated and very helpful, but in the end it all came down to personal taste for me.

It's impossible to say that one is better than the other, because both headphones really has their highs and lows, and it depends alot on intended use.

In the end I decided the DT 770's was just too bassy for me, and I wasn't 100% pleased with how the mids and highs blended in with the rest. The AKG K271's just felt more right, and all in all just had a smoother and cleaner sound which seem more appealing to me.

I can imagine the bass of the 770's becoming annoying after a while, especially since I actually like to listen to loud music within genres that doesn't exactly lack in the bass department to begin with.

Anyway, I decided the 271's was the way to go, and I really think I'm going to be happy with my purchase!

A big thanks to everyone for helping me decide!
post #22 of 57
I would recommend you give the DT880 Pros a listen a shot before a final decision. The 770s are supposedly much heavier in the bass than the 880s. I just got the 880s a week ago for studio use and love them so far. There is serious bass, but it sounds very natural to my ears.

By the way, can anyone confirm whether the AKG K271s have more or less bass than the K701/702? I would think that the 271s should have more bass, since they are closed phones, but the graphs show even less bass than the 701/702, which are already bass-light phones.

mk3
post #23 of 57
One more point: There is good reason that studios typically have multiple sets of speakers as well as headphones. No single headphone model will excel at all tasks, unfortunately. Some are better for tracking, some for production, some for bass, some for detail work, some for stereo imaging...

mk3
post #24 of 57
Good choice! I like my K271mkii a lot. My HD600 gets more listening time, but I get out the K271 when I'm laying in bed, and with some types of music I like it more than the HD600 (was listening to A Perfect Circle - The Noose earlier, and the sound was just what I wanted to hear). Also, my K271 has plenty of bass..I would never call it anemic, not even close. Guess I got one of those pairs eh? Or maybe it pairs well with the Vivid V1. I don't know, but I like the sound I get!
post #25 of 57
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post #26 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bornslip View Post
... Sometimes I wish I could just not be such a perfectionist and just go for something!
I feel I'm going mildly insane here from just trying to pick a pair of headphones.
Yeah, it can be frustrating. I've been the same way with headphone amps.

Something about the audiophile personality that often involves perfectionist/obsessive-compulsive/autistic-like levels of sensitivity, and anxiety-ridden bouts of over-concern regarding choices and possible disappointment scenarios...
post #27 of 57
The bass issue with the DT770s is really a matter of taste/preference. Some like it, some don't - I happen to LOVE it. Some like their BBQ pork, some like their BBQ beef - as long as we're all eating and happy, who gives a ****.

As has been said, they're not producing any bass that isn't already there in the music, and to my ears, they're more realistically recreating the sound of the actual recording or of a band/performer playing live.

Off for another fantastic session with my DT770s and a rockin' little tube amp...
post #28 of 57
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mk3 View Post
I would recommend you give the DT880 Pros a listen a shot before a final decision. The 770s are supposedly much heavier in the bass than the 880s. I just got the 880s a week ago for studio use and love them so far. There is serious bass, but it sounds very natural to my ears.
Funny you should mention these, because I was actually looking at the DT880 Pro's, but decided they're a bit outside of my pricerange at the moment. I've never been able to listen to them though...

I'm sure I could spend several hundreds or even thousands of dollars hunting for the perfect set of cans, but at the end of the day it all comes down to a compromise between budget and quality. For my first venture into the world of quality phones, I feel the AKG K271 MKII's will suffice, I appreciate the tip though!

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Originally Posted by TubeStack View Post
The bass issue with the DT770s is really a matter of taste/preference. Some like it, some don't - I happen to LOVE it. Some like their BBQ pork, some like their BBQ beef - as long as we're all eating and happy, who gives a ****.

As has been said, they're not producing any bass that isn't already there in the music, and to my ears, they're more realistically recreating the sound of the actual recording or of a band/performer playing live.

Off for another fantastic session with my DT770s and a rockin' little tube amp...
Exactly, it all comes down to taste and preference. Like I said, the DT770's aren't a bad set of phones at all, but I noticed that for me and my musical preference, they would be too bassy
post #29 of 57
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Something about the audiophile personality that often involves perfectionist/obsessive-compulsive/autistic-like levels of sensitivity, and anxiety-ridden bouts of over-concern regarding choices and possible disappointment scenarios...
Yup
post #30 of 57
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Originally Posted by mypasswordis View Post
If anything, the DT770/80 is the muddy one.

Here is my sophisticated and well-thought description of its sound:

THUMP THUMP THUMPsplashy splash THUMP THUMP THUMP

All mid-bass with some splashy somewhat-sibilant treble mixed in.
The best description of the boombeyer I've read for while.

I started with the old 2003 version, even worse, I can tell you!
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