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post #16 of 57
I have had the RS1i in my sights. I'm not enamoured with the idea of an anaconda like cable. Is that really a triumph of function over form? I'm still awaiting the opportunity to compare it with the GS1000i at my local hi-fi store, which fortuitously happens to be the only Grado retailer in this town. Unfortunately, there aren't any models in stock there to demo as yet. However, the announcement of the HF-2 has introduced an unexpected but not an unwelcome complexity. I look forward to reading the impressions from Head-Fiers whom will have the opportunity to listen to it. If it really does turn out to be the baby brother of the PS1000, then the RS1i might be relegated to a lower position on my list of Grado priorities.
post #17 of 57
The skeptic in me can't help but wonder how much of this is nostalgia, how much of it is owners of the older RS-1 trying to pump up their resale value, how much of it is simple unit-to-unit variance, and how much of it is actual sonic differences.

I seem to be one of the few who am willing to give Grado the benefit of the doubt and believe they know more about their products than head-fiers do.

--Jerome
post #18 of 57
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Originally Posted by jsaliga View Post
The skeptic in me can't help but wonder how much of this is nostalgia, how much of it is owners of the older RS-1 trying to pump up their resale value, how much of it is simple unit-to-unit variance, and how much of it is actual sonic differences.
i don't think these changes really warrant a new designation for the RS1 and 2 models, they seem to be the same type of slight moderations that grado has been making to those phones since they were invented. the lower models may be justifiably labeled as new versions though, since the improvements are a little more dramatic and easier to notice. how important the differences are probably depend on which model you're looking at.
post #19 of 57
You must have noticed that eg. Senn. has influenced prospective buyers into thinking adding a II at the end of a product name signifies a new, improved model - when in truth there are no actual changes to the headphone. AKG acts similarly - so why single out Grado while arguing a supposed point? ..........or should this approach be simply dismissed as a German idiosyncrasy. Either it matters re all manufacturers, or it doesn't matter at all. Does it pay to pick at nits?
post #20 of 57
Is there any input on the comparison between the new rs1i and the previous iteration?

The price difference between the models are substantial and am thinking of getting the old rs1 is there is no major compromises.

Thanks!
post #21 of 57
By bringing the, so called, new product on the market, you keep up, or at least try, the value of your product, otherwise you create, one point or another, overproduction, which will cause the decrease of the price. I never seen RS1 selling for USD 400 untill lately. Puttin aside this point, you have another, which is more logical, you need keep up selling at the good level to, so, by light changes in material/construction, you will automaticaly, at least you hope so, find new market for your so called new product. To me, its a totally mess, but what do I know about headphone production/making and company running, I just an consumer who wants the best for less.
post #22 of 57
So is there a consensus if the rs1i is better than the old rs1 to justify its steeper price?
post #23 of 57
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Originally Posted by Mr.Borismo View Post
So is there a consensus if the rs1i is better than the old rs1 to justify its steeper price?
I think they both have their strengths. I remember the RS-1i being clearer and tighter in the bass. The highs were more pronounced as well.

My RS-1 with buttons (no serial no.) goes down deeper in the low frequencies and has a fuller midrange. When compared directly they weren't as clear as the RS-1i, however, when listening to rock, jazz or metal the sound wasn't as alive as with the buttoned RS-1.

I might add that I was lucky enough to have gone through a few pair of RS-1 (including the buttoned classic and non-buttoned one) and find that there is a much larger difference between the buttoned one and the two others than the buttonless RS-1 and the RS-1i.
post #24 of 57
Maybe after 10 years of use RS1i become quite differ to.
post #25 of 57
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Maybe after 10 years of use RS1i become quite differ to.
Point taken.

However, I purchased mine from RockCity who had stated he put no more than 30 hours on them. When the comparison was made I had added about 30-40 hours of burn-in.
post #26 of 57
Check out this thread, our local thread here in the Philippines, someone here has i think 3 RS1s. RS1i
post #27 of 57
Thanks for the link, seems that RS1i are great pair of headphones

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Check out this thread, our local thread here in the Philippines, someone here has i think 3 RS1s. RS1i
post #28 of 57
The buttonless RS1's sound different and better to me than the buttoned semi-vintage version. I expect mere difference between the "i" and non-i versions of buttonless Grado's. At least it turned out like that in my comparison between the GS1000 and the GS1000i. You can find more difference between the GS1000's with different serial numbers than I found between my GS1000 and the GS1000i at the store.
post #29 of 57
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Originally Posted by Brighten View Post
I think they both have their strengths. I remember the RS-1i being clearer and tighter in the bass. The highs were more pronounced as well.

My RS-1 with buttons (no serial no.) goes down deeper in the low frequencies and has a fuller midrange. When compared directly they weren't as clear as the RS-1i, however, when listening to rock, jazz or metal the sound wasn't as alive as with the buttoned RS-1.

I might add that I was lucky enough to have gone through a few pair of RS-1 (including the buttoned classic and non-buttoned one) and find that there is a much larger difference between the buttoned one and the two others than the buttonless RS-1 and the RS-1i.
thats pretty much how my RS1i sounds. clear, tight bass, nice highs. your comments makes me want to try out the classic and vintage RS1's. i like the RS1i's and the sound is pretty equal across the spectrum but don't feel that the midrange is as warm and lush as say the HD650 or K701. i'm still trying to find some tubes that can bring out that rich midrange. a recable might do it too i guess.

i have a feeling the RS1i and buttonless RS1 are actually the same aside from the thicker cable and square rods.
post #30 of 57
just wanted to add that the cable is really not as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be. it's not an "anaconda-like" cable nor is it cumbersome. i think that might've been one of the reasons grado shortened the cable. it's pretty short, which works out nicely because i use it at my desk and if the cable were much longer i think it might be cumbersome.
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