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post #46 of 557
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
At 56 ohms this IEM will require an amp so it certainly will NOT compete with SE530. This will be pretty a unique offering....
Now now, impedance ratings always tell the whole tale.
post #47 of 557
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Originally Posted by Edward Ng View Post
Because the Westone 3 is too warm/too not neutral for professional monitoring and because the UM3X will probably sound too cold/dry/neutral to be, "fun," sounding.

-Ed
I suppose ES3X is more to the bright side and no doubt a higher level of IEM comparing to Westone 3.

sounds like UM3X will be brighter than W3.hence, will be closer to ES3X. Hopefully, other
aspects of SQ will improve.
post #48 of 557
Yes, like less bass hump!

-Ed
post #49 of 557
This indeed is very strange..5 months after the W3...also If you look at their website it is listed above UM1 and UM2 on the Universal section as True Fit Universal. And if it uses the same drivers as the ES3X (W3 only share one with ES3X) I guess is targeted more to consumer rather than musicians (since ES3X is for audiophiles while ES3 are stage monitors!). Well only 22 days till we find out.

So it seems UM3X + UM56 custom tips = ES3X (for almost half the price)
post #50 of 557
This isn't strange at all. The W3 suffered from fit issues. Properly fitting it ripped apart the SE530 and everything else on the market this side of the ES2. Improperly fitting it sounded like garbage, worse than stock ipod earbuds in the most extreme cases. And for a lot of people, it was either really hard or flat-out impossible to get a good fit.

So if this addresses the fit issues while leaving the sonics intact, and makes sure that everybody can hear sound quality like that of a properly-fitting W3, then it will be enough of an upgrade for just about anybody. And if it improves on a properly-fitting W3, and gives much less fussy fit on top of that, it will be really something.

Still, there's the third route of this improving SQ over the W3 when it's properly fitting, and presenting the same fit problems as the W3... hopefully we won't see this but we'll know soon enough.

56 ohms won't necessitate an amp. The E5c was 110 ohms and was just fine unamped, though it did benefit from one.

Westone really do need to get their naming convention right. There's the UM2, W3, UM3x, ES2, ES3, ES3x... what are all these designations and what the hell do they mean to an uneducated consumer? Shure were right to rename everything in their lineup when the E500 came out and broke the naming convention, and Westone should do the same, and have something that separates purely professional products, from those aimed more at the consumer.
post #51 of 557
I don't see how it improves fit; do you see the images of it on the site/in the promotional material? Identical shape, different outer case color.

-Ed
post #52 of 557
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Originally Posted by catscratch View Post
This isn't strange at all. The W3 suffered from fit issues. Properly fitting it ripped apart the SE530 and everything else on the market this side of the ES2. Improperly fitting it sounded like garbage, worse than stock ipod earbuds in the most extreme cases. And for a lot of people, it was either really hard or flat-out impossible to get a good fit.

So if this addresses the fit issues while leaving the sonics intact, and makes sure that everybody can hear sound quality like that of a properly-fitting W3, then it will be enough of an upgrade for just about anybody. And if it improves on a properly-fitting W3, and gives much less fussy fit on top of that, it will be really something.

Still, there's the third route of this improving SQ over the W3 when it's properly fitting, and presenting the same fit problems as the W3... hopefully we won't see this but we'll know soon enough.

56 ohms won't necessitate an amp. The E5c was 110 ohms and was just fine unamped, though it did benefit from one.
You meant it ripped apart the wires??? The Westone is a sidegrade to the my modded SE530's. Also the way my SE530's sounds now it may well be a downgrade.
post #53 of 557
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Originally Posted by Edward Ng View Post
I don't see how it improves fit; do you see the images of it on the site/in the promotional material? Identical shape, different outer case color.

-Ed
Actually, I see a different design from what they posted on their site and the W3 that's right now lying on my desk. The sound tube and the attachment mechanism are very different.

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You meant it ripped apart the wires??? The Westone is a sidegrade to the my modded SE530's. Also the way my SE530's sounds now it may well be a downgrade.
Um... ? It ripped the SE530 apart sonically. It was miles ahead.

I used to think the W3 was a side-grade from the SE530 when both of them weren't properly fitting. Then I got a good seal with the SE530 and thought "man... the W3 is complete and utter crap compared to this." But then two weeks later I got a good seal with the W3 and that opinion changed somewhat. The SE530 was very good for a canalphone but no match for good full-size cans. The W3 is better than the SE530 and actually is a match for good full-size cans, and a great deal better than some of the awful full-size garbage that has come onto the headphone scene in the last 3 year or so.
post #54 of 557
looks like a UM2 outer case with triple drivers squeezed in to me.
post #55 of 557
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Originally Posted by catscratch View Post
Actually, I see a different design from what they posted on their site and the W3 that's right now lying on my desk. The sound tube and the attachment mechanism are very different.



Um... ? It ripped the SE530 apart sonically. It was miles ahead.

I used to think the W3 was a side-grade from the SE530 when both of them weren't properly fitting. Then I got a good seal with the SE530 and thought "man... the W3 is complete and utter crap compared to this." But then two weeks later I got a good seal with the W3 and that opinion changed somewhat. The SE530 was very good for a canalphone but no match for good full-size cans. The W3 is better than the SE530 and actually is a match for good full-size cans, and a great deal better than some of the awful full-size garbage that has come onto the headphone scene in the last 3 year or so.
Click the link in my sig and try that mod and report back here and be prepared to change what you've just type.......
post #56 of 557
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You meant it ripped apart the wires??? The Westone is a sidegrade to the my modded SE530's. Also the way my SE530's sounds now it may well be a downgrade.
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Click the link in my sig and try that mod and report back here and be prepared to change what you've just type.......
Just shut up. PLZTYVM.

Also try actually fitting W3.
post #57 of 557
I find this release a little strange for sure. It would be nice if the Westone site explained more about sound signature in comparison to the W3, and ES3x. Anything they don't explain is just pure speculation at this point. If it's geared more toward a pro level, discerning, monitoring user, why would it be priced $20 below the W3, the more consumer-oriented 'phone (unless it's an introductory price)? And we can't know if they've addressed fit issues in the W3 in any sort of concrete manner.

But, I suppose we'll all know in less than a month. It's sort of nice to not have to wait over a year through tons of delays to know any concrete info (oh wait, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself!).
post #58 of 557
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Originally Posted by MaloS View Post
Just shut up. PLZTYVM.

Also try actually fitting W3.
Oh did my opinion offend you there buddy? I'm sorry
post #59 of 557
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Originally Posted by VoLTaG3 View Post
Oh did my opinion offend you there buddy? I'm sorry
Precisely. Your wickedly uneducated opinion.
post #60 of 557
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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post
I find this release a little strange for sure. It would be nice if the Westone site explained more about sound signature in comparison to the W3, and ES3x. Anything they don't explain is just pure speculation at this point. If it's geared more toward a pro level, discerning, monitoring user, why would it be priced $20 below the W3, the more consumer-oriented 'phone (unless it's an introductory price)? And we can't know if they've addressed fit issues in the W3 in any sort of concrete manner.

But, I suppose we'll all know in less than a month. It's sort of nice to not have to wait over a year through tons of delays to know any concrete info (oh wait, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself!).

The $20 price difference could be the lack of accessories in comparison.

-Ed
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