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Originally Posted by shigzeo  i don't think so, but i do disagree that 'neutral' by advertising means neutral in real terms. also, live albums i have heard sound so much different from live music of the same concert.
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I agree that neutral by advertising doesn't mean it is neutral in real life.
When you hear a event live. Too many variables affect what you hear. Where you are in the auditorium? How close you are to the stage? What side you are of the stage? The quality of the PA system, venue acoustics and how loud are the people around you screaming Etc.
You will never have the perspective that mics on stage have. If you want live sound only got to live concerts. Bear in mind that the same band will sound markedly different depending on the venue.
Once the event is captured on media and mastered. The goal is to reproduce the recording as accurately as possible at home. Because the recording has all the information in it. A speaker or transducer cannot add or subtract information because it doesn't know what it is supposed to sound like. So making something warm is adding/subtracting information I.E. distortion.
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| neutral does not mean that it is the recording as that comes from processing, different monitors that are often not made for headphones, and too many variables to bet on neutrality. rather, i think neutrality is not even possible in recording - only in live as that is the music as heard by the ear with out post-processing etc. |
A recording can be warm or bright. Because Mics are warm/bright/neutral. The producer/engineers used equipment they thought was needed to get the sound they wanted. A neutral device will make the recording sound warm if it was recorded warm. Bright if it was recorded bright. A warm device will make everything warm.
For example, A painter decided he wants a painting to have a cool tone and uses lots of blue. A transparent glass will reflect that intention or an LCD calibrated professionally( if viewing an image). A yellow glass will always make it warm and distorted, so will an LCD tuned with a warmer color temp.
It is a misconception that Live music is the benchmark. 99% of concerts are mic'ed and amplified and broadcast over PA systems. The are only as good as the venue's acoustics and the PA engineers skill.
I'll make a bold claim that headphones will never sound natural because we don't hear things centimetres from our ears in real life.
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| i have worked in recording and have many sound engineer friends - it makes me no expert but it has proved to me that music in stage and music for music sake are two different things. everything is monitored, toned down or up and frequencies are cancelled, denied or elevated. neutrality is a buzzword like authentic is. |
Yes just like a Photographer or A painter or a Chef. When creating art the artist is the person that dictates what it sounds/looks/tastes like.
I have given examples of artist intention vs consumer taste. Like adding ketchup/ extra pepper/ setting color temp on a monitor etc. When you alter the artists intention you are changing it.
A recording is the artists/productions intention. They were involved and approved the way it sounds. Changing it to suit ones tastes is the same as adding coke to 18 year old single malt scotch. In scotland you wouldn't even be served that by a bartender that cared. But in audio warmth it is sought after!
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