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iPod Classic 5th Gen vs. 6th Gen (my brief review)

post #1 of 31
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About 2-3 years ago I finally broke down and bought a 1st Gen iPod Shuffle for cycling. Being one who likes to go against the grain, it was something I had put off for a long time. If it's pop culture it's not for me, but I soon realized that there's actually something to this "Ipod thing."

Well 2-3 years later I have a bunch of headphones, a 1st Gen Shuffle, a 2nd Gen Shuffle, 1st Gen Nano (Rockboxed), 6th Gen Classic 80GB, Sansa C250 and finally a 5th Gen Classic 30GB.

I've heard ad nauseam the debate about the best source gear on this site and although the reviews are always insightful, it can be a bit overwhelming to make a decision based on someone else's ears. So, like many of you, I go and purchase another iPod when I have more of them already than I have brains.

So, the 5th Gen Classic arrives today from Woot.com for $99. My taste in music is mostly Hip-Hop, Soul and Jazz. I throw a few good tunes on the new Classic from Madlib's Beat Konducta album (mostly Jazz and Soul sampled instrumental Hip Hop -- GREAT album BTW). I pop the newly deflowered Classic into my iPod dock, which is connected to my Onkyo receiver, which is connected to my Energy Speakers. To my amazement, it sounded great. In fact at the high bit rate that I sample my MP3s, my ears couldn't distinguish a difference between that and the actual CD fed through my Oppo DVD/CD player.

I then wondered how good this really sounds in comparison to my 6th Gen. So, I fire up the same song on the 6th Gen, check the EQ settings to make sure everything is the same as the 5th Gen and pop that bad boy in the same dock. The difference was amazing; dull, flat, less spacious with a loss of punch in both of ends of the spectrum. The mids were there and accurate, but it just lost its soul. If I could describe the difference in one word it would be, "lifeless." It then hit me, I now see what all the fuss is about. The Wolfson chip in the 5th Gen IS clearly better. I expected a modest difference, but it was much more than that.

30GB is more than enough to fit my favorite albums. My 6th Gen will now be relegated to beach listening and God knows what. It just doesn't compare to its predecessor.

In the words of Ferris Bueller, "It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."
post #2 of 31
I guess that's a good thing to hear, considering I just picked up a 30gb and an additional 80gb. That's three total. Gotta stock up.

The amazingness of Rockbox has hypnotized me.
post #3 of 31
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Originally Posted by Punnisher View Post
I guess that's a good thing to hear, considering I just picked up a 30gb and an additional 80gb. Gotta stock up. The amazingness of Rockbox has hypnotized me.
I see you have a 3rd Gen Nano. My wife does as well and I've found the quality to not be as good as my 1st Gen Nano and about the same as my 6th Gen Classic.

You should love your new purchase. Enjoy!
post #4 of 31
Well I've owned a 5.5g 80gb for quite some time, but it's only recently that I've learned how great rockbox is on it. I just wanted to get a couple extra players since finding players that run rockbox is only going to get harder.
post #5 of 31
I love my 30GB Video, and will probably end up buying an 80GB soon.
post #6 of 31
I just recently got myself an old ipod video 80gb 5g. Since day one I have it running rockbox for all my flac files and it is incredible. So many features to mess around with plus the sound is phenomenal for a DAP.
post #7 of 31
Well... And of course this 5G>6G opinion for lineout goes very much against the grain of pretty much a consensus on head-fi that 5G 's DAC can only shine in modded ipod (imod/diymod), 6G stock sounding better than 5G stock through lineout, but not quite as good as 5G iMod lineout. Vinnie of RWAudio suggested that 5G's DAC is superior, but its stock lineout has way too much crap in between DAC and ipod output; 6G's DAC is inferior, but the the path from DAC to output is much cleaner resulting in better sound (compared to 5G stock). 5G imod eliminates the crappy components that muddy the signal from Wolfson DAC and allow this better (relative to 6G) DAC shine.
post #8 of 31
so if one wants to use the 6th gen lineout to an amp , it won't be that worse right?
post #9 of 31
yer imo the only reason to actively seek out a 5 or 5.5 gen ipod is to diymod or get vinnia at rwa to imod it, otherwise you might as well stick with the 6th gen's line out.

xcluded, 6th gen line out wont be that worse than what? it is cleaner than 5.5g line out if thats what you mean as observed by me and others on here.
post #10 of 31
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Originally Posted by dazzer1975 View Post
yer imo the only reason to actively seek out a 5 or 5.5 gen ipod is to diymod or get vinnia at rwa to imod it, otherwise you might as well stick with the 6th gen's line out.

xcluded, 6th gen line out wont be that worse than what? it is cleaner than 5.5g line out if thats what you mean as observed by me and others on here.
yeah i was comparing with 5.5g normal ipod line out.

as rumours saying new version of ipod might be coming out , i guess i hold on first before considering...
post #11 of 31
er whats an IPOD Classic 5G ?
post #12 of 31
It's the ipod video where it has a clear surface in the front.
post #13 of 31
you mean an IPOD Video ?
post #14 of 31
you mean the ipod 5g? there was no ipod video unless you might somehow describe the touch as a video ipod, but no ipod video
post #15 of 31
The ipod fifth generation were advertised as the ipod video. Just like the ipod photo before it, and the ipod classic today.

Edit: I know it was marketed that way, and almost everyone calls it the ipod video, however it isn't the official name. I stand corrected.
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