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post #2626 of 2631

Thanks for the recommendations.

 

I haven't heard the SR-009s but I personally wouldn't be prepared to drop that much on a pair of headphones without first seeing a number of different blind tests proving that they sound better (and choosing them myself in a blind test).

 

I wonder: could the Realiser be used not only to mimic the sound of speakers, but also of other headphones? You could potentially cut your collection down to a single headphone, plus measurements of a number of others. :)

post #2627 of 2631

check out the JAES papers linked at the start of: http://www.head-fi.org/t/612665/how-far-can-eq-really-go-towards-truly-equalizing-headphones#post_8429154


Edited by jcx - 4/20/14 at 5:09pm
post #2628 of 2631

Definitely waiting to hear HE-560 with Realiser..

post #2629 of 2631

I've decided to go with the SR-3170 system, despite its lack of "aesthetic appeal." A number of different people have said that Stax headphones work best with the Realiser (better than the HD800) and they are, of course, recommended by Smyth. I wanted to buy the HD800s but from all the reviews I suspect that there may be some technical reason why electrostatic headphones work better with the Realiser (e.g. the virtualised sound from the Smyth algorithm is more sensitive to distortion than "normal" tracks).

 

I've tried to justify buying the SR-009 to myself but I can't do it. The SR-307 uses the same driver as the SR-507 and I prefer solid state amps (the next system up comes with a tube amp). The difference in sound between the SR-3170 and the SR-009 plus a suitably overpriced amp is probably very subtle indeed (although, admittedly, I haven't tried the SR-009 yet - I will soon) - but the difference in price is equivalent to an ultra-high end 4K TV. I'm buying the TV instead. Everyone has to draw the line somewhere. :)

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I've decided to go with the SR-3170 system

 

Don't forget to address the need to have your own PRIR made, rather than to try and "get by" with someone else's.  There's honestly no comparison.  If you want to get the most enjoyment you can from the Realiser and Stax system (or, if like me, you don't have your own genuine external multi-loudspeaker system and depend on your headphones 100% to listen to BluRay movies and HDTV), the PRIR is central at the core.

 

And although it's typically not free (unless you have some complimentary no-charge connection to some place with a good/great/superb sounding listening environment that will let you "measure it" for yourself), it probably will only cost the typical one-time $200-$300 or that neighborhood to arrange for a one hour "rental" arrangement.  Ideally for best possible results you should also try and enlist the assistance of someone (e.g. Lorr Kramer, from Smyth, if possible) experienced in getting things set up for the PRIR measurement and also how to insert the two calibration microphones in your ears.

 

Many/most of us long time Realiser users have arranged for a visit to AIX Studios in Los Angeles, which has been extremely generous ever since 2009 when the Realiser was first released to allow the [non-free] use of their mixing room facilities to be used for PRIR calibration measurement sessions.  Even if it meant a standalone plane trip to LA or as part of some otherwise planned trip to the area, the uniquely superb 5.1 and 7.1 sound setups in this listening room environment is just something most individuals would not be able to build or afford for themselves.  To be able to capture it in a PRIR for yourself (with your own ears hearing the sound) so as to genuinely maximize the listening enjoyment capability of the Realiser, well it's really worth the one-time cost... even if it has to be planned for sometime in the future.

 

Congratulations on your "new toys".  Hopefully you'll really enjoy the setup.

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Don't forget to address the need to have your own PRIR made, rather than to try and "get by" with someone else's.  There's honestly no comparison.  If you want to get the most enjoyment you can from the Realiser and Stax system (or, if like me, you don't have your own genuine external multi-loudspeaker system and depend on your headphones 100% to listen to BluRay movies and HDTV), the PRIR is central at the core.

 

And although it's typically not free (unless you have some complimentary no-charge connection to some place with a good/great/superb sounding listening environment that will let you "measure it" for yourself), it probably will only cost the typical one-time $200-$300 or that neighborhood to arrange for a one hour "rental" arrangement.  Ideally for best possible results you should also try and enlist the assistance of someone (e.g. Lorr Kramer, from Smyth, if possible) experienced in getting things set up for the PRIR measurement and also how to insert the two calibration microphones in your ears.

 

Many/most of us long time Realiser users have arranged for a visit to AIX Studios in Los Angeles, which has been extremely generous ever since 2009 when the Realiser was first released to allow the [non-free] use of their mixing room facilities to be used for PRIR calibration measurement sessions.  Even if it meant a standalone plane trip to LA or as part of some otherwise planned trip to the area, the uniquely superb 5.1 and 7.1 sound setups in this listening room environment is just something most individuals would not be able to build or afford for themselves.  To be able to capture it in a PRIR for yourself (with your own ears hearing the sound) so as to genuinely maximize the listening enjoyment capability of the Realiser, well it's really worth the one-time cost... even if it has to be planned for sometime in the future.

 

Congratulations on your "new toys".  Hopefully you'll really enjoy the setup.

I believe John is based in the UK. I wonder if there are any equivalent studios like AIX that can do measurements there? I wonder if Smyth research in the UK has a set up to do measurements for customers. Or I would think that they might know of places in the UK since they are there.

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