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post #181 of 2687
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Originally Posted by blubliss View Post
Pretty positive you do not need your preferred headphones when you do the room, headphones can be done separately.
Is this correct? There is one calibration for the HT/room and a completely separate calibration for the headphones that doesn't require access to the HT?

If so, that's great.
post #182 of 2687
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Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
Is this correct? There is one calibration for the HT/room and a completely separate calibration for the headphones that doesn't require access to the HT?
Yes, the calibrations are totally separate. Whenever you calibrate the headphones, it does not matter what room you are in.
post #183 of 2687
Nice. Now I can place my order for the Realiser within the next two weeks or so, then choose my new home theater headphone rig at my leisure
post #184 of 2687
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Originally Posted by Erik Garci View Post
Yes, the calibrations are totally separate. Whenever you calibrate the headphones, it does not matter what room you are in.
What's your take on the Stax 202 headphones that come with the SVS bundle?

I'm wondering if there will be a significant improvement if buyers move up to some of the newer, higher end Stax models like the SR-303, SR-404 or SR-007 vs. the deal on the SR-202's in the box.
post #185 of 2687
I was just wondering this myself. If the Realiser can make the 202s perfectly replicate a high-end speaker system, I have to wonder how much of an audible difference a higher-end Stax could actually make. It's hard to resist upgrade-itis, though!
post #186 of 2687
True. I've never been able to demo any Stax gear so I don't know if keeping the 2050II will be good enough.

Their nicer stuff certainly ain't cheap - STAX - elusivedisc
post #187 of 2687
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Originally Posted by Ripley View Post
I was just wondering this myself. If the Realiser can make the 202s perfectly replicate a high-end speaker system, I have to wonder how much of an audible difference a higher-end Stax could actually make. It's hard to resist upgrade-itis, though!
The SVS system was pretty convincing through the bundled 202's I heard at Can Jam a few weeks back. But you do wonder about moving up the line a bit.

One person at Can Jam suggested that the 404's would be a worthwhile move up.

Hmm....
post #188 of 2687
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Originally Posted by bmoura View Post
What's your take on the Stax 202 headphones that come with the SVS bundle?
I talked with Steven Smyth about this, and his response was that they decided to bundle the 2050 system with the Realizer to provide a lowest common denominator, and that, yes, you will of course get better sound from the system if you use better headphones, a better amp, a better source, etc.

My interpretation of his comments, based on some other remarks he made is that they were concerned (not terrified, but concerned) about the possibility of getting negative reviews from non-headphone-audiophiles and some of the pros who might buy the Realizer and mate it with mid-fi gear, and then blame the mediocre sound that results on the Realizer. In other words, the 2050 system is bundled in with the Realizer for the non-headphone-audiophile buyers, not so much for us. He said they would be happy to knock off the cost of the 2050 for someone who wasn't interested in it, but only if they had a better headphones/amp combo.

He didn't say how much the discount would be for those who do not want the 2050, but my guess is that it would be whatever their cost is (which might be a little less than retail, assuming that they'll be getting slightly better prices than we could from a retailer, given that they'll be buying in quantity to a certain extent).

My opinion on the matter, having done the full demo and personalizations twice now (Ft. Lauderdale and LA) is that the Realizer itself is dead-on in terms of replicating the room environment. Like so many others, I can't really tell the difference between the speakers and the headphones. Yet, I've definitely heard better headphones! Don't get me wrong, the 2050 system is pretty decent, but I know for sure that it will sound a lot better with the Omega II headphones and SRM-007 amp, for example.
post #189 of 2687
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Originally Posted by Wmcmanus View Post
Don't get me wrong, the 2050 system is pretty decent, but I know for sure that it will sound a lot better with the Omega II headphones and SRM-007 amp, for example.
Now I'm trying to justify the $4k for the Omega II's. STOP THAT!
post #190 of 2687
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Originally Posted by Wmcmanus View Post
I talked with Steven Smyth about this, and his response was that they decided to bundle the 2050 system with the Realizer to provide a lowest common denominator, and that, yes, you will of course get better sound from the system if you use better headphones, a better amp, a better source, etc.

I've definitely heard better headphones! Don't get me wrong, the 2050 system is pretty decent, but I know for sure that it will sound a lot better with the Omega II headphones and SRM-007 amp, for example.
I'm sure that's true. But I wonder the value of moving up say from the 202 to the 303 or 404. Worth it ?
post #191 of 2687
I really don't think there would be a big difference in this application between the 202 and even the O2. Before people get ready to bash me for this, realize I'm not talking about for normal headphone use. Please realize that even the 202 is technically astounding, and using it in this application makes complete sense. The speed and detail (two limiting factors that the SVS box can't compensate for) you'll get from a Stax setup is going to best just about any speaker system. I'm not saying the higher end Stax setups won't do better (I'm sure an O2 setup would help improve simulating ~30-60 Hz, among other things), but I wouldn't expect a drastic change (and no change in tonality, soundstage, and other characteristics).
post #192 of 2687
dsperber,

What happens to the heapdhone analog outputs when the unit is on stand-by mode?
Does it work as a analog pass-through of the front L/R analog inputs?
post #193 of 2687
I called Smyth yesterday because I was told at CanJam that maybe 3 weeks would be the delivery time. I was told yesterday they are still working on getting the unit to "professionals" Not sure, but seems like the waiting list, if there is any at all, is quite flexible. A bit frustrating. They told me to call back in another couple weeks.
post #194 of 2687
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Originally Posted by blubliss View Post
I called Smyth yesterday because I was told at CanJam that maybe 3 weeks would be the delivery time. I was told yesterday they are still working on getting the unit to "professionals" Not sure, but seems like the waiting list, if there is any at all, is quite flexible. A bit frustrating. They told me to call back in another couple weeks.
Interesting. Are they taking orders for the next batch of units ?
post #195 of 2687
Well, they told me I was on some wait list. I want one.
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