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post #166 of 2713
That's what I was told - discount given his price for the Stax rig - but the recommendation was get the whole package and sell extras and thus save a little more money.
post #167 of 2713
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Originally Posted by Ripley View Post
If you hit "mute" on the receiver/processor, does that also mute the pre-amp out? I thought volume control (and muting) usually had no effect on line-outs.
On my receiver, the volume and mute controls affect the speaker outs and the pre-amp outs.
post #168 of 2713
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That's what I was told - discount given his price for the Stax rig - but the recommendation was get the whole package and sell extras and thus save a little more money.
They definitely feel strongly about using Stax headphones vs. dynamic headphones.

Guess the question is how much better is the performance of the SVS system as you move up from the 202s to higher level units (303, 404, etc etc...)
post #169 of 2713
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They definitely feel strongly about using Stax headphones vs. dynamic headphones.
Hopefully they'll give an explanation on this. My personal preference is AKG or Sennheiser so I'd rather use that.
post #170 of 2713
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Hopefully they'll give an explanation on this. My personal preference is AKG or Sennheiser so I'd rather use that.
Their explanation was that out of all the many different headphones they tried, Stax worked best. I think they are a good choice too for technical ability. Electrostatic headphones are extremely fast and can be fairly transparent. Lambda are also very comfortable.

OTOH, I bet you could hook up your dynamics to the system and configure it. I guess you could do your own tests to see. I think you could also sell the SR-202 and SRM-252 that come with it for $400 without too much effort if you don't like what you get.
post #171 of 2713
So this is more of a pairing issue. Just like some 'phones are better with one amp over another, the Realiser works better with electrostatics.

dsperber, have you used anything else with the Realiser other than your Stax Omega-1/SRM-T1S setup?
post #172 of 2713
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
Some people have a speaker A/B on off switch (or similar) and can turn off the speakers without turning off the pre-amp out or headphone jack of the receiver.
One way is to add speaker switch boxes. Do any receivers have a built-in switch that works that way?
post #173 of 2713
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dsperber, have you used anything else with the Realiser other than your Stax Omega-1/SRM-T1S setup?
Not really.

But when I was at Dr. AIX's studio I did specifically have two headphone/ear EQ profiles produced for both my Omega-1 as as well as my Lambda Pro, both using the same SRM-T1S amp. These both would then be usable into the future, if I should get additional room/ear files produced.

So I did create two separate presets from the room/ear experience, for the two different headphones, just to be able to compare for curiosity. However I really haven't yet taken the time to do the comparison I had prepared for.

NOTE: with only a single processor path and headphone output in the Realiser, it's not even possible for two people to sit side-by-side and enjoy a common source through two separate heaphones (each calibrated separately for that person). So preparing for two separate headphones for one person is really only an intellectual curiosity project, since one person would inevitably always listen through the best headphones available when given a choice.

I've suggested to Smyth that for "home family use" building a dual-path Realiser, supporting two separate personalized SVS presets simultaneously and having two separate headphone outputs so that two people could listen simultaneously through two separate headphone/amp paths, would be very user-friendly. They are in agreement.
post #174 of 2713
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Originally Posted by dsperber View Post
I've suggested to Smyth that for "home family use" building a dual-path Realiser, supporting two separate personalized SVS presets simultaneously and having two separate headphone outputs so that two people could listen simultaneously through two separate headphone/amp paths, would be very user-friendly. They are in agreement.
According to the WSR article, the HPM-208A prototype supported two outputs (and two head trackers) for two users. Maybe they will bring back this feature in a future Realiser.

As a compromise for now, you could calibrate the left ear of one user and the right ear of the other user.
post #175 of 2713
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Originally Posted by manaox2 View Post
Their explanation was that out of all the many different headphones they tried, Stax worked best. I think they are a good choice too for technical ability. Electrostatic headphones are extremely fast and can be fairly transparent. Lambda are also very comfortable.

OTOH, I bet you could hook up your dynamics to the system and configure it. I guess you could do your own tests to see. I think you could also sell the SR-202 and SRM-252 that come with it for $400 without too much effort if you don't like what you get.
That's my impression as well. The Stax worked best with it's flat response and other sonic characteristics vs. the dynamic models.

Hard to go wrong picking up the 202/252 combo for only $400 in effect. Although I'm guessing some may want to go up the ladder a bit and use one of the current, higher end Stax models (SR-007, SR-404, SR-303) before visiting rooms and getting "measured" !
post #176 of 2713
Pretty positive you do not need your preferred headphones when you do the room, headphones can be done separately.
post #177 of 2713
I was just looking at this. I think what it needs is optical digital input, so something like an XBox can be connected to it.
post #178 of 2713
The Xbox optical can be connected to a receiver/processor/decoder that has multichannel analog outputs, which are fed to the Realiser.
post #179 of 2713
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
I was just looking at this. I think what it needs is optical digital input, so something like an XBox can be connected to it.
It's interesting. The Beyer HeadRoom unit has optical in and the Smyth SVS has analog in.

I'm guessing that over time, they'll both offer optical, analog and HDMI inputs.
post #180 of 2713
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Originally Posted by bmoura View Post
It's interesting. The Beyer HeadRoom unit has optical in and the Smyth SVS has analog in.

I'm guessing that over time, they'll both offer optical, analog and HDMI inputs.
The issue is primarily one where Smyth does not want to be involved licensing a set of DD/DTS decoders for inclusion into their hardware, or worrying about keeping up with the latest and greatest codecs and associated multi-channel technology.

So my guess is that even if they implement some kind of alternative digital input (along with analog) on a future model, it will likely be HDMI and not optical, and it will still be expected to have been externally decoded before delivery to the Realiser. The digital input via HDMI will no doubt be decoded discrete multi-channel PCM bitstream, in lieu of discrete multi-channel analog.

Just my guess. Thus the digital input can be used pretty much directly by the existing SVS processor logic, as if it had come right out of today's A-to-D converters in the box. Thus the bypass of A-to-D conversion for the analog input would be the only thing that would be different, with the discrete decoded multi-channel lossy/lossless source remaining in the digital domain throughout, fed directly to the SVS processor... until finally going out via D-to-A conversion to the headphones as SVS-processed 2-channel sound.
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