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Originally Posted by HDMan 

 

@Googleli > Some people just never get it.

 

Confirmed by Smyth Research, thanks for clarifying my own understanding of how this remarkable product works.

 

I did an experiment with some cheap headphones, took the pads off and fixed them at a distance from the head, like K1000's. It is much better not having something on your ears, really sounds like there are speakers there. I am definetly going to try the K1000's at some stage, shoot out with the 009's.

 

That is why SVS includes the Head-Tracker system with the Realiser.

The paper that Dr. Smyth wrote was about problems he foresaw that needed to be over come and well before he developed the Realiser.

But I never thought you were nuts, if It helps then by all means do it.

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Originally Posted by Danz03 

I personally don't have a problem getting the room space aurally without any visual help, but if you have difficulties in getting it, maybe you can try closing your eyes? Or turning off all the lights when you're watching a movie?
 

 

Yes that is what I do, I don't find the need to use the Head-tracker.

imo, if you are having a problem visualizing where the sound is coming from, close your eyes and just hit the "Mode button" on the Realisers remote for the music or pink noise and then just isolate each Ch by pressing any one of the Ch button on the remote. If your PRIR and HPEQ are done right then you should be able to visualize where the sound is coming from in your headphone. Top L or R corner is where you should hear the sound coming from, center is coming from the middle and so-forth.
 

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Originally Posted by dsperber 

I think it's remarkable how many already have SR-009 headphones... like it was "the latest toy".

 

These are NOT CHEAP.  And obviously deserves a high-end amp to go with, adding to the investment.

 

On the other hand, these are truly lifetime investments so I suppose it can be justified... like a house!

 

Yes I am still struggling with the cost of my 009's, I do have a 30 return window for a 100% refund. If I was looking at these headphones as a investment, they would be already returned.

But as the old saying goes, " the only difference between the men and the boys, is the price of the toys".

I do think my SRM-727 does a very nice clean job of powering the SR-009's, but that's not to say that I am not looking forward to hearing how the SR-009's sound with the Liquid Lightning, but that's not to say I am getting one.
 

Thank you for the detailed explanations.  All very clear now!  I think I might try introducing an external DAC in the form of my Cambridge Dacmagic via the optical connect.  I'll report on the outcome.  This is not a super high end DAC but certainly has been well-reviewed in the press and I'm not using it elsewhere.  I suspect that higher end phones would make a bigger difference, though, as an improvement on the standard STAX.

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Originally Posted by Danz03 

I personally don't have a problem getting the room space aurally without any visual help, but if you have difficulties in getting it, maybe you can try closing your eyes? Or turning off all the lights when you're watching a movie?
 

 

It's not that I have a problem with visualizing the sound from within space, but the fake speakers help to locate an accurate and precise sound field. I can still percieve the sound without them, in other words its like having hidden speakers, but it was that I found that introducing fake speakers aided in localising the accuracy of the sound stage. Both are enjoyable and it would come down to personal preference.

But I still stand by my observation, that even without so called fake speakers, localising the sound field will not be as effective if the percieved sound is coming from behind a wall (smaller room than your PRIR), closing your eyes is not a solution, turning the lights may prove effective, but not always practical or desirable.
 

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Originally Posted by dsperber 

I think it's remarkable how many already have SR-009 headphones... like it was "the latest toy".

 

These are NOT CHEAP.  And obviously deserves a high-end amp to go with, adding to the investment.

 

On the other hand, these are truly lifetime investments so I suppose it can be justified... like a house!

 

Very true.  I was at the SF Bay Area Meet Up earlier today and had the opportunity to hear the SR-009 headphones with three amps - the BHSE, the Liquid Lightning and the Stax SRM-727II. 

The SR-009 is very impressive - and will undoubtedly match well with the Realiser.  Time to check my credit card balances.....  :)

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Originally Posted by arnaud 

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bmoura, you can't simply leave us hanging there!! Impressions of the 009 through the various amps pleaaaaase! New meet impressions thread will do ;)

Each one gives a different sonic signature with the SR-009.  I heard the same SR-009 earspeakers on the BHSE and the Liquid Lightning.  In that comparison, I'd give the Liquid Lightning the edge. 

Surprisingly, I found the SR-009 / SRM-727II setup from JazzFan the best sounding of the three.  The sound had more richness and weight than the BHSE and LL to my ears. 

But all three offered a very wide soundstage.  I can see how the SR-009 will be very effective with the Realiser.

I was also impressed by the Sennheiser "Orpheus" HE-90 setup brought by n3rdling.  What they say about those phones is true - they are special.

Another impressive setup was Eddie Current's 2A3 amp with HiFiMAN's HE-6.  Made me wonder why we don't hear more about this combo.

And I was surprised that most of the Audeze phones at the meet were LCD-2s vs. LCD-3s.  I assumed that there would be more upgrades to the LCD-3 by now.  Apparently not....

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Originally Posted by bmoura 

And I was surprised that most of the Audeze phones at the meet were LCD-2s vs. LCD-3s.  I assumed that there would be more upgrades to the LCD-3 by now.  Apparently not....

Thanks for the quick impressions, that's quite interesting! In regards to the LCD3, I myself couldn't see the reason to spring extra money for it vs. the nearby LCD2r2 last I heard it at a local meet here. I guess many potential upgrades / buyers got scared stiff with yet another unraveling release from Audeze. 

Looking forward to heard others impression of the stat amps, am already subscribed to the other thread ;)

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Originally Posted by bmoura 

Each one gives a different sonic signature with the SR-009.  I heard the same SR-009 earspeakers on the BHSE and the Liquid Lightning.  In that comparison, I'd give the Liquid Lightning the edge. 

Surprisingly, I found the SR-009 / SRM-727II setup from JazzFan the best sounding of the three.  The sound had more richness and weight than the BHSE and LL to my ears. 

But all three offered a very wide soundstage.  I can see how the SR-009 will be very effective with the Realiser.

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Yes I agree that the SR-009/SRM-727 combo is as you say.

I still am working on the best HPEQ for this combo, my rig and PRIR's. I think I have zeroed in on the best placement of the ear mics and the volume level of the SRM-727 for making a HPEQ.

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Originally Posted by sillysally 

Yes I agree that the SR-009/SRM-727 combo is as you say.

I still am working on the best HPEQ for this combo, my rig and PRIR's. I think I have zeroed in on the best placement of the ear mics and the volume level of the SRM-727 for making a HPEQ.

You'll have to share your settings when it's all dialed in.

Has anyone heard of the QOL device reviewed by Robert Hartley recently?  I wonder if this would work in conjunction with the Realiser.  Very easy to spend large amounts of money in the pursuit of audio nirvana.

Did you look at the Smyth Research website?