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post #46 of 59
2/6/10 at 7:29pm
I just got JBL Reference 410 for only $CDN30 from local Wal Mart, they sound so good and contructuion is really good with inline vol control.
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Ultrasone Zino S-Logic Natural Surround Sound Portable Headphone
post #47 of 59
2/10/10 at 3:38pm
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Wait nm deleted this post turns out two days ago while fooling around with EQ I somehow disabled left channel which applied only on analog but not digital output of my h120. It works fine, zino sounds okay out of my mp3 player, about the same amount of detail as the icans. There is certainly an improvement in build quality, and like others say, the container is big as hell. Sound quality wise, very similar to icans, etchy as it is burning in, but I notice two things, heftier bass and a more "neutral" sound signature than the icans.
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post #48 of 59
2/10/10 at 5:15pm
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I'm researching soundproof hoodies now, and hell, I'll need something to keep people from seeing the bling-bling iCans lol).
sound proof hoodies? (tell me more; google failed me D
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post #49 of 59
2/10/10 at 5:22pm
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I got hoodies with an internal layer for repelling rain, good enough sound-proofing but people walking by will think I am ventriloquisting music.
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post #50 of 59
2/10/10 at 7:25pm
Not sure I get it, got an example of one? or ya did it yourself?
if it is this thing that would be pretty funny. xD
http://www.outdoorpros.com/Prod/Hatc...fhu=3130363635
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post #51 of 59
2/10/10 at 8:56pm
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lol no, just a cotton hooded jacket that has the hood lined with some waterproof cloth.

I probably won't have to do a review of this vs the icans, they are pretty similar, with the same feeling of slightly hollow mids, and greatest weakness being male vocals. But there's certainly an improvement in visceral and realistic bass, and I prefer the more neutral-like sound signature on the zino to the icans, which had a sort of hip mellow sound signature.

Warning though, this must be worn with the headband at the back of your head, 45 degree angle, perfectly diagonal. And if you have a medium/large head you MUST stretch out the headband a little or you will die from excruciating clamp force.

Last thing, I must commend Ultrasone for not harping on their Mu metal or the importance of emf-shielding on the Zino box insides except for a single sentence about conforming to the ULE standard, and also stating "ULTRASONE headphones emit low-level magnetic radiation. Exposure to such emissions can potentially pose a minimal health risk but only in cases of prolonged, continuous usage." If they admit their headphones are potentially dangerous it goes to show they believe it themselves and it is not just marketing.

Whether they are right or not I'm not going to argue here though , besides, a million other things put out more emf than headphones.
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post #52 of 59
2/10/10 at 9:01pm
so not a plastic lining but a waterproof cloth.
I wonder if I should get my friend the zino or es7s? hmm...
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post #53 of 59
7/21/10 at 6:49pm

ULTRASONE ZINO! UNBIASED REVIEW WITH/OUT AMP - MOBILE RIG

 

SOURCE: Apple Lossless and movie clips

 

INTERCONNECT: Moon Audio Blue Dragon V1 - 26AWG Silver conductor

 

AMP: Portable Type - Little Dot MKI with LT1364 op-amp upgrade.

 

Here I go with the review.  Unbiased and I am open to opinions and suggestions. 

 

The Ultrasone Zino.  Designed in Germany and built in China (Shenzhen).  The Drivers are taken from one series of headphones, which is the HFI-2400.  Both the Zino and the HFI-2400 (confirmed from Heidi at Ultrasone Deutschland) use the same 40-mm Gold-plated Mylar drivers however the HFI uses a higher-impedance coil versus the iphone friendly Zino.  None the less the audio signature is roughly the same.  The S-Logic portion for the Zino is not as apparent than with the rest of the lineup due to the shape and location of the drivers within the headphone casing. 

 

There has been many different tech-specs published within this forum so after speaking to Heidi from Ultrasone Germany, she has stated the accurate specs are published on the dedicated Zino website (www.lost-sound.com).  Here are the exact specs.

 

FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 10-hz to 25-KHz

IMPEDANCE: 35-ohms

S-Logic, ULE Shielding using MU Bufferboard.

40-millimeter Gold-plated Mylar drivers

Supra-Aural Coupler, semi-open headphone design. (This last one is different than with the iCans).

The Ultrasone Rep from Germany (Heidi) informed me that aside from the tech specs, everything else is a slight omission from stated fact.  Designed in Germany, made in China. Drivers are produced in Germany (headphone drivers).

 

These headphones are much larger than I initially thought when I first purchased these as a birthday present to myself.  After the purchase, I was invited to a audiophile gathering only find my other friends to have purchased the iCans and the NU30.  So here I am, toting the Zino's with the ability to audition the other two for a true A/B comparison. 

 

The Zino, NU30, and the iCans have similar sonic characteristics yet they are not the same in drivers and overall design.  The iCans have an airy signature with well define treble and mid-range.  The Bass could stand for some improvement such as warmth and quantity (All of the headphone tests is through my Little Dot MKI).  The drivers used in the iCans are 30-millimeters and use a mylar diaphragm.  The headband is a little rounded and is a little tighter on the head especially with the shape of my head that is.  I do like the overall sound-stage of the iCans, however I do not like the sonic character or the sibilance factor that the cans exudes.  Otherwise, the iCans are very good for the given price point (discounts are usually available since the Zino replaces the iCans).

 

The NuForce NU30 uses the iCans 30-millimeter mylar diaphragm with similar dampening characteristics.  Uses the same headphone casing as the Zino with the same headband, however from what I gather after listening to them, it has a balance between the iCans and the Zino.  The sibilance factor still exists but not so much.  Bass quality and quantity is present while still maintaining certain attributes.  One thing is for certain is that the NuForce headphone sounds a bit better when an amplifier is used rather without. 

 

Just for reference, the Little Dot MKI uses an op-amp for pre-amplification while a dedicated TI headphone amp circuit is used.  This provides a level of impedance matching hence one amp is required rather than multiple amps for different headphone choices.

 

Now the Zino.  Upon using it for the first time or the first ten hours, the bass quantity is high while the quality is good.  Punchy, deep, and fairly tight (without amplification that is - better with amp) while the mid-range is rather smooth transitioning to the higher frequencies with a great deal of definition.  This is after just opening the box and listening to them.  With the amp, these characters are improved subtly with an increase in overall sound-stage depth.  An Amplifier whether it is desktop or mobile, will provide a higher level of headphone driver control especially when listening to bass or treble heavy tracks.  An amp can better control those frequencies than with just using a simple line or headphone output of any given device. 

 

After passing the 10-hour mark, the Zino opens up a bit in the mid-range and treble frequencies.  The Sound-stage opens up to deeper overtones and widens a bit as though sitting third row center.  Bass frequencies are slightly less with go deeper in the registers while smoothly blending in with the mid to high frequencies.  The Lossless recording used is The Secret Island Album by Stanley Thomas Keiser - Twin Mic Setup by Clarity Recordings.  The nasal quality and depth of the alto-sax is just superb while the bass guitarist and drums are unbelievable in the quantity and quality.  It feels as though I am actually sitting in the recording studio for a private listening session.  There is no harsh overtones or brightness in the music being reproduced by this headphone.  Just sheer bliss and clean sound-stage representation. 

 

Then I decided to let them burn-in for an entire week playing everything in my ipod 3rd-generation coupled to the Little Dot MKI (connected to AC and not off of battery).  144-hours plus the 10+ hours of initial listening and I feel the Zino's drivers have settled a bit.  The Sound-stage, dynamic range, and overall warmth of these headphones are excellent.  Very clean and clear with no sign of peaks or dips throughout the frequency range.  Graphs are deceiving hence that is why I am not introducing any of them in this review.  I really like the quality that this headphone exudes and after owning a great deal of full-size headphones, I must say that the Ultrasone Zino is one of the most comfortable portable, on-ear headphones that I tried and owned ever.

 

CONCLUSION

This is an excellent headphone whether it is amped or not.  Subtly better when amped especially when listening to very clean audio tracks.  Sound leakage is to be expected with a headphone of this class, but the audio reproduced by the Zino makes up for what most could say could be lacking.  If isolation is the key, then this headphone would not be ideal.  I am rather flexible with headphones hence that is why I am writing a review on the Zino.  I just love the way they make music shine. 

 

Hope this review was helpful.  Opinions are welcome.  Have a great weekend everybody.

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post #54 of 59
7/21/10 at 9:23pm

^Thanks yklee, always good to hear your thoughts.

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post #55 of 59
7/22/10 at 12:33am

Thanks, yklee118!

 

They were my first non-mass product headphone purchase (and the first to cost more than € 30). But at the time I couldn't afford multiple head-/earphones and I decided in favor of closed cans just to get the HFI-780 shortly after. Ever since I've been missing the Zino without being even able to describe its sound. Your review brought up some of the great memories I have with them - especially the punchy bass.

I knew I'd have to give them another try after all the head- & earphone experience I've gathered in the last year and the time has come now. Hopefully mike1127's Zino will arrive soon!

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post #56 of 59
7/22/10 at 4:59am
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Nice well-written review. I wanted to write an in depth description of the zino but found it too hard to describe, since I liked a few aspects of it better than pro 900 I was also in denial and couldn't trust my ears :) now that I know it uses the same driver as the hfi-2400 or newer version of hfi-2200 my high opinion of a few aspects of the zino is understandable to me now.

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post #57 of 59
7/28/10 at 3:30am

Got mine yesterday (for the 2nd time).

 

It took some time and modding to get a great fit on my small head, but now I'm loving them! They don't stand a chance against the HFI-780, though, which makes them kinda useless for home use but they'll accompany me whenever I go to the park or elsewhere quiet.

 

BTW, they look damn sexy! *drool*

 

Not sure if this has to do with burn-in or the fit or perception or accomodation or whatever, but at first I was shocked how much the mids were recessed and how harsh the highs were. Now I find it hardly that bad, though.

I now can also easily tell the difference between lame MP3 v2 and iTunes Plus AAC! I never managed to do that with any other head-/earphone I've tried! Does this mean that the resolution is just insanely high or does it have to do with sibilance?

 

Did I mention that they're dead sexy yet?

And I looove the bass!

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post #58 of 59
7/28/10 at 2:33pm

I might add some photos to prove the sexyness:

 

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post #59 of 59
5/1/11 at 7:00pm

http://www.ektoplazm.com/2011/senzar-before-the-morning-sun

 

this sounds soooo nice -- just lay back and and feel gold 

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