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post #31 of 96
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
whats the voltage drain on this dac/amp?? could I for instance power it with an external USB or DC battery pack like I use for my laptop and sometimes my current rig?? will be using it the same way with my gamma1 shortly. can it accept power through USB or does it need to be dc powered??
I don't know if they have changed for US versions but my Peridot plays fine with USB power only.
post #32 of 96
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
whats the voltage drain on this dac/amp?? could I for instance power it with an external USB or DC battery pack like I use for my laptop and sometimes my current rig?? will be using it the same way with my gamma1 shortly. can it accept power through USB or does it need to be dc powered??
Topaz needs an external 6V power supply.

Emerald can be powered from USB, although it does sound just a bit better with external power supply.

Peace,

Lee
post #33 of 96
Does anyone have a power cord that doesn't fit into the power supply well? My cord doesn't fit too securely into the ps and comes loose fairly easily when I move the Topaz...

Also, how many hours of burn in did it take for you guys to notice a deeper, tighter bass?

I'm about 120 hours, and it still lacks the impact/body that I like in the lows and low mids. I definitely noticed the sound becoming more transparent around 100 hrs in.
post #34 of 96
<QUOTE> Also, how many hours of burn in did it take for you guys to notice a deeper, tighter bass? </QUOTE>


clasam,

Are you burning-in the amp you got from deadie? Or is it something else?

I seem to recall somebody told the amp was already burned in for 150 hours before they shipped for evaluation.
post #35 of 96
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Originally Posted by clasam View Post
Does anyone have a power cord that doesn't fit into the power supply well? My cord doesn't fit too securely into the ps and comes loose fairly easily when I move the Topaz...

Also, how many hours of burn in did it take for you guys to notice a deeper, tighter bass?

I'm about 120 hours, and it still lacks the impact/body that I like in the lows and low mids. I definitely noticed the sound becoming more transparent around 100 hrs in.
Contact myself or Craig (I assume you bought it from him) and we'll get you a new power cord/adapter. Sorry about that.

150 hours for burn in. Bass is the last thing to come around, IME.

Lee
post #36 of 96
Here are some initial thoughts thus far, about 150 hours, which is half of what I want before my final review. So take this review with a handful of salt

I compared vs my brother's iBasso D10 (LTC6241HV opamp and LMH6643 buffers-a warm, smooth, sweet combination) using ESW9 phones. Using iTunes in a win XP computer.

Songs:
Keith Urban "Raining on Sunday"
Big Kid "What Kind of Name is..."
Al Green "Let's Stay Together"
Alanis Morissette "Not the Dr"
Kanye West "Two Words"
Antonio Vivaldi "Gratias Agimus Tibi"

*********First of all, here's a disclaimer**********:

I almost universally hate NEW audio devices that I buy. With the exception of my first entry out of stock phones/buds, which was Senn Px100s, I have disliked the AKG 81 DJ, Senn HD280Pro, ESW 9, DT770, ultrasone icans, Shure (I forget the model, but think it's the SLC-3), iBasso D10, bluesky exo 2.1 monitors...and that's not the entire list

So, I first listened to the Emerald and...I didn't care for it...which is actually a pretty good first impression for me. While there was a fullness to the sound and great soundstage, it was too colored, the bass was too sloppy, it didn't have enough detail or slam.

Once I got over 100 hours, I could really see potential in this amp...became much more transparent, the soundstage (which was pretty darn good to start with) became all encompassing, and there was a clarity/separation of instruments with no etchiness...

Now that it's been 150 hours, things are starting to pop off (translation: Head bobbing goodness). And even though I still like my brother's D10 better (more slam, more body in the mid-bass/upper bass, more detail and a sweeter sound), I feel that the Topaz is starting to go toe-to-toe with the D10.

To use a completely unrelated analogy, the Topaz is like a caged beast, and the door to that cage is about to come off.

I'll check back here for round the results of round two.
post #37 of 96
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Originally Posted by Murugesh View Post
<QUOTE> Also, how many hours of burn in did it take for you guys to notice a deeper, tighter bass? </QUOTE>


clasam,

Are you burning-in the amp you got from deadie? Or is it something else?

I seem to recall somebody told the amp was already burned in for 150 hours before they shipped for evaluation.
Hey, Murugesh

I'm burning in the amp for...myself (cause I'm selfish like that )

Yeah, 150 hour mark seems to be the turning point...

Thanks,

Jon
post #38 of 96
Hello All,

Sorry for the delay in posting my thoughts on the Carat Topaz (life and work keep getting in the way). I'll post some comments from my notes this weekend, but in a word: Impressive.

The unit and USB cable are on their way to HeadphoneAddict; I look forward to reading Larry's comments.
post #39 of 96
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Originally Posted by MoNelly View Post
Hello All,

Sorry for the delay in posting my thoughts on the Carat Topaz (life and work keep getting in the way). I'll post some comments from my notes this weekend, but in a word: Impressive.
-snip-
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Yeah, stop holding out on us!
post #40 of 96
I used to have a pair of Audio-Technica ATH7 that I loved, but they had an, uhm, accident about 5 years ago (baby-puke all over them... ). So now many years later, I decided it was time to get back in to the game and I pulled the trigger on Denon D7000. Spent 3-4 days with them plugged straight in to my Mac mini, delivering CDs and Flacs. The resolution was amazing, even down to the base, but I knew an amp was necessary so went out and bought the Carat-Topaz today.

Obviously neither Head-phones nor DAC/Amp is burned in, but all I can say as initial impression is that while the D7000 (pretty low ohm) were already jaw-droppingly amazing before I got this amp, the sound is now absolutely astonishing. The attack of the bass as well as the overall sound is much more firmer. I like the over-all build-quality of the amp as well.

Power is absolutely more than enough and I tend not to go over 1/3rd on the dial.

Will come back and try to post some more impressions after 50+ burn-in, but I have to admit I am already in head-fi heaven. Good to be back after all these years.
post #41 of 96
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Originally Posted by winston_pr View Post
-snip- I knew an amp was necessary so went out and bought the Carat-Topaz today.

-snip-

Power is absolutely more than enough and I tend not to go over 1/3rd on the dial.
I hear ya, really powerful...on my current go to cans (ESW9), I turn the volume dial MAYBE a 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch clockwise.

And I'm not just talking about VOLUME when I talk about power, I'm talking full, rich, deep sound, with an almost grand canyon like soundstage.
post #42 of 96
Does anyone have information or experience with the lower end USB dacs by Styleaudio such as the Carat HD1V or Carat UD1?
post #43 of 96
The $450 Carat Topaz is an impressive device that offers performance on the scale of larger, notably more expensive units. In many ways it remains a hard unit for me to nail down, as it is too small to be "full sized," but too large (and AC dependent) to be truly portable. That said, it performs an awful lot like a full-sized system, and at the end of the day that's what matters most.

The Topaz drove all of my cans admirably. The 701s sounded very good, the Senn 600s sounded great, and my Grado RS-1s sounded fantastic. The Topaz and RS-1s seem to make a very synergistic pair, with the combo offering up crystal-clear voices (without ever sounding digitally edgy), excellent instrument separation, and something I guess I would best describe as a forceful drive. All in all, I think you can safely pair the Topaz with any of these headphones, but listening via the RS-1 left me with the impression that there was more there, there. After listening to a series of songs with all three sets of cans, I settled on using the RS-1s for the remainder of my time with the unit.

Next, I spent some time comparing the Topaz with the other DAC/Amps I had on hand, using the RS-1s. My main rig consists of a PS Audio Digital Link III paired with a Headroom Desktop Millett Hybrid Amp. Conservatively--and not counting interconnects, upgraded power cords, and the Millett being out of production--that rig today would cost you at least $1,300 new. For our purposes, let's say that setup ranks a 10 to my ears (translation: I really, really love the robust, clean, and smooth sound this combination produces).

On that scale, I put the Topaz at a 7.5. Not bad for a $450 product. Further reference: I'd put the Headroom '06 MicroStack (DAC+amp) at roughly 6.5 on that same scale, and the Pico DAC/Amp at 6.

Now before all the Pico lovers in particular start cursing my name, I'd like to point out that I think the Pico is a marvel of a device. Amazing sound quality, and the only truly portable device among those listed here (I consider the MicroStack a luggable). The Topaz is much larger than the Pico, and the designers clearly used that additional space in the service of better sound quality.

After a fair amount of listening to all three devices, and then using the Topaz DAC to drive first the Pico's Amp and then the Micro Amp, I came to this realization: The magic here is the DAC. It offers a level of clarity and authority that's nearly in the same league as the PS Audio III. Not quite there, but closer then I guess I'd like to admit.

Anyway, I think it's worth noting that the Topaz upsamples everything to 24/192. In my experience, that amount of upsampling can make music sound thin and lifeless. In fact, while my PS Audio can also upsample to 24/192, about 99.9% of the time I set it to 24/96 for a sound I find more pleasing. However, the Topaz clearly has the 24/192 dialed in well, as all of the quality recordings I listened to sounded good.

Moving on to a few hardware pros and cons:
Pros:
*I very much like that the unit uses a full-sized headphone jack instead of a mini.
*The pre-amp capabilities are a major plus, and make the unit a shoe-in for desktop service.
*Build quality seems top notch, and fit and finish is good.
*It's nice to have both USB and a full-size optical input options.

Cons:
*I wish the USB input supported native 24/96 files (The Topaz USB downsamples these to 16/48). Alas, it seems that this capability is reserved for only higher-end products (such as Benchmark's $1300 DAC1 USB) or lower-end products (such as M-Audio's $99 Transit). Can anyone explain this phenomenon to me?
*A gain switch would be nice.
*The topaz-colored LED up front is way too bright (yes, nitpicking, but…my eyes…it burns!!!)

All in all, I found the Topaz to be a fantastic "little" unit, and one that I could recommend to anyone who's looking for a very solid, non-portable DAC/Amp combo.

Like Deadie, I'll finish up my review with a few words about the Spotlight USB cable. I contacted Craig at Whiplash to get a few more details, and found out the unit is completely handmade. It features "Cryo'd OFC single conductors with extra damping and a high end USB connector" and sells for $187.

Honestly, the thing I noticed most about the cable was the connector, which seemed to better grip the USB jacks of both the Topaz and PS Audio III DAC then the standard cable that ships with the Topaz. Beyond that, it's a nice looking cable, but to my ears I could not hear any difference. Maybe I'm too skeptical to let myself hear a difference, or maybe there really isn't one.

I've recently begun to spend a little money on new interconnects and power cables for my main rig, so I clearly see a value to these types of upgrades. At this point, however, I haven't seen--nor heard with my own ears--evidence to convince me to spend $187 (or more) for a USB cable.
post #44 of 96
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Originally Posted by MoNelly View Post
*I wish the USB input supported native 24/96 files (The Topaz USB downsamples these to 16/48). Alas, it seems that this capability is reserved for only higher-end products (such as Benchmark's $1300 DAC1 USB) or lower-end products (such as M-Audio's $99 Transit). Can anyone explain this phenomenon to me?
Sure, there are currently really only two viable ways to get 24/96 over USB: License the CEntrance software like Bel Canto, Empirical Audio or Benchmark. Strike a deal with Gordon at Wavelength to use his custom code like Ayre does.

There will soon be another way, however, that has to wait for Can Jam.

Peace,

Lee
post #45 of 96
Thanks everyone for spending time with the Topaz and Spotlight. If my memory serves me correct, HeadphoneAddict is now next to receive the Topaz.

If there are others that are interested in reviewing this, please post here your interests or send me a PM!!
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