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Originally Posted by Zoop View Post
 

anyone have experience with the new CS300F? I can only find one review so far. :basshead:

 

i will be matching it with AKG K701, gardo 325 and denon D7100. any idea? thanks! 


 You might consider using a vintage circa late 1970s receiver to drive your headphones. I was following these vintage units for awhile and finally took the plunge about 5 months ago. I have not looked back ever since. I bought a concept 16.5 monster vintage receiver and it easily trumps most headphone amps that I have heard for driving headphones. The available power that a unit like the 16.5 produces with headphones is considerably more than most headphone amps out there. Of course the unit I bought was recapped which anyone with a unit this old should consider having done on your unit. Parts do age over that period of time for sure. The concept 16.5 put out 165 watts rms at 8 ohms and 240 watts rms at 4 ohms per channel. The 16.5 is a real beast with headphones.

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 You might consider using a vintage circa late 1970s receiver to drive your headphones. I was following these vintage units for awhile and finally took the plunge about 5 months ago. I have not looked back ever since. I bought a concept 16.5 monster vintage receiver and it easily trumps most headphone amps that I have heard for driving headphones. The available power that a unit like the 16.5 produces with headphones is considerably more than most headphone amps out there. Of course the unit I bought was recapped which anyone with a unit this old should consider having done on your unit. Parts do age over that period of time for sure. The concept 16.5 put out 165 watts rms at 8 ohms and 240 watts rms at 4 ohms per channel. The 16.5 is a real beast with headphones.

Thanks! i will look into it. i must admit, my 20 years old denon receiver does a better job than the audiolab 8200 CDQ i have. I do question if some of the new design is all just about cost cutting.... 

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I liked the Q cable the best with the LCD-3, although I'm not someone who thinks cables make a huge difference, only a very subtle one.

 

Thanks Skylab!

 

The Q cable is one of my shortlist...the others being Moon Silver Dragon and Artisan silver. Q looks like better value of the lot.

 

I agree cables don't always make a difference...thought there have been a few instances where cables have made a big difference in my system.

 

With Leben + Audeze combo I am keen to explore where the diminishing returns kick in :)

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Hi all,

 

This will be my first post on the Head-Fi Forum, very pleased to join you after having read many threads here.

Important to know that I'm a full Newbee in "cans" as I've been mostly listening to music for Hi Fi with Speakers.

 

 

Just a quick sum-up of my configuration :

- Speakers : Proac D18 / MrSpeakers Alpha Prime

- Amp : Leben CS600

- Dac : Hegel HD25

- Source : SOTM SMS100 with dedicated battery - Configuration in DLNA / JRiver&JRemote / Nas Synology 2 x 3TB

 

 
I've just bought a MrSpeakers Alpha Prime (after having read many reviews and the full thread here) and I don't understand because it seems to me it doesn't work properly :
- Very litlle bass / no sub-bass => hence a not well balanced sound (too bright)
- Saturated sound when I put the volume above 11/12 o clock (and the sound doesn't seem loud at all)
 
All in all I have a MUCH better sound with my stupid 75€ Marshall Major Headphone !

 

 

My question is simple : can the leben CS600 drive properly those cans ?

MrSpeaker recommand to have a headphone power rating of 200mW at 50 ohms. Does any one knows the power rating of the Leben CS600's headphone jack ? 

 

Many thanks in adavnce for your help,

Julien

 

PS : I maybe also post this to the MrSpeakers AP Thread 


Edited by Julz- - 1/23/15 at 7:03am
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This is a CS300 thread.

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This is a CS300 thread.

I understand, but since it is a Leben CS300 thread, maybe you could tell me the power rating of the Leben CS300 headphone output ? Tks


Edited by Julz- - 1/26/15 at 12:18pm
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Julz, to my old ears, I've found the Leben amps to sound much better (great) with high impedance headphones - think HD800 and Beyerdynamic T1 type impedance.  When I was using my CS600 with headphones, I married it to T1's - it worked excellent for me. 

 

~michael

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That has not been my experience. I don't think any amp does a better job with LCD-3s.
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Julz, to my old ears, I've found the Leben amps to sound much better (great) with high impedance headphones - think HD800 and Beyerdynamic T1 type impedance.  When I was using my CS600 with headphones, I married it to T1's - it worked excellent for me. 

 

~michael

 

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That has not been my experience. I don't think any amp does a better job with LCD-3s.

 

Thanks for your help and advices, but I'm looking for closed cans as I mainly listen to music through my ProAC D18.

I justed wanted a good closed Hi Fi headphone when my wife asked me for some rest after 4 hours of music in a raw... Women.


Edited by Julz- - 1/26/15 at 12:16pm
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I use both low and high impedance headphones with my 300X. In my experience they sound better with my LCD-3, ZMF Vibro (which is also a modified T50RP similar to your mr Speakers). While my HD-600 also sound great, they has a higher noise floor compared to the low impedance cans.

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an 'inside' headsup/interest check, since you also apprechiate the traints of this amp.. :-)

 

I might soon (= within the next four weeks) sell a cs300xs in mint condition with excellent tubes (including Raytheon Black Plate Windmill Getter 5751, NOS Tung Sols 12AX7's, and Valvo EL84 (Hamburg, Germany) from old stock. Same code: rX3 D, Matched quad gold pins gold grid 6P14P-ER Reflector (EL84 7189 6BQ5) NOS, stock sovtek EL83 and 84, Testla E83CC (frame grid, excellent)..  in V230 Version it is from 2009, I have all original paperwork, the headphone output seems to be pre-the change that they had when they lowered the Voltage (so it can easily drive the LCD-2s)

 

The amp is silent with Sony R10's and has a small (!) amount of humm with HD650 (but none that I could detect even in quiate parts, only with music turned off).

 

best, Nonno

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