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post #1966 of 2066
I also have Golden Dragon EL84 output tubes. They are supposedly used less than 100 hours. Input tubes are new NOS.
post #1967 of 2066
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

I also have Golden Dragon EL84 output tubes. They are supposedly used less than 100 hours. Input tubes are new NOS.

 

So, Lars, do you use the Leben with the HE-6? I have been using it from the speaker taps via the HE-adapter for the last couple of days - I find it absolutely gorgeous!

post #1968 of 2066
Yes, I do, and I agree that it sounds gorgeous with soft genres. I just have a 10 Ohm resistor in parallel on the speaker taps.
Edited by LarsHP - 10/11/13 at 4:59am
post #1969 of 2066
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Yes, I do, and I agree that it sounds gorgeous with soft genres. I just have a 10 Ohm resistor in parallel on the speaker taps.

Double that. But I wouldn't restrict it to soft genres, I think it fairs well generally. I use the HE adapter.
post #1970 of 2066
It does fair well generally, but to me it excels with music that has an emotional quality and on the other hand lacks a little with hard hitting kick drums. In other words: It's superb with music for the heart, but music for the feet is not it's strongest point. In my opinion of course.
Edited by LarsHP - 10/12/13 at 1:30am
post #1971 of 2066
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It does fair well generally, but to me it excels with music that has an emotional quality and on the other hand lacks a little with hard hitting kick drums. In other words: It's superb with music for the heart, but music for the feet is not it's strongest point. In my opinion of course.

Agreed. For super tight control of hard hitting bass drums, look weekswere. But the emotional quality is absolutely to die for
post #1972 of 2066

Just wanted to chime in about the hum issue.  Until last week, the only headphones I used with my CS300XS were the LCD3 and never noticed any hum.  Then last week I got the HD 800 and immediately noticed a hum.  It might be my imagination but I think it even impacts the listening experience; in other words, I'm pretty sure I can hear the hum even while listening to music at low volumes.

 

I'm not too bothered by this discovery.  The Leben is still exquisite with the LCD3, and I'll just use the HD 800 exclusively with the soon-to-arrive GS-X MK2.  :)

post #1973 of 2066
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Just wanted to chime in about the hum issue.  Until last week, the only headphones I used with my CS300XS were the LCD3 and never noticed any hum.  Then last week I got the HD 800 and immediately noticed a hum.  It might be my imagination but I think it even impacts the listening experience; in other words, I'm pretty sure I can hear the hum even while listening to music at low volumes.

 

I'm not too bothered by this discovery.  The Leben is still exquisite with the LCD3, and I'll just use the HD 800 exclusively with the soon-to-arrive GS-X MK2.  :)

 

Another high impedance hum-report. Do you have any high sensitive low impedance headphones availiable?

 

And howdoes the HD800 sound on the Leben, except for the hum?

post #1974 of 2066

Now that you mention it, I forgot that I have listened to the JVC HP-DX1000 on the Leben (they're uncomfortable and I rarely use them, LOL).  They have a very slight hum but it's barely noticeable when silent and completely undetectable when music is playing.

 

The HD 800 sounds very nice on the Leben when listening at louder volumes.  Perhaps they just need time to break in, but they sound much brighter than the LCD3.  Particularly with acoustic guitar, the sound is more detailed but a bit too bright.  Soundstage is where the HD 800 clearly defeats the LCD3, not that the LCD3 is weak in that regard but it just can't compete with the renowned soundstage king.  This is all pretty much as I was expecting.  Overall I definitely prefer the LCD3, but I didn't get the HD 800 for the Leben anyway.

post #1975 of 2066

Of all amps I've head with the HD800, the DNA Sonett, Lehmann Black cube, HDVD800,  Trafomatic Head One, Crack, some WOO amps etc, no one is as good a match for sheer musical enjoyment as the Leben with these cans.  Going from the worst pairing which is the Lehman that is an analytical and dry SS amp to the luscious Leben is a revelation.

The HD800 need some bloom in order to come alive and be suited for music were the end result is to be emotionally moved.

With the bass boost of the Leben you almost make them an allrounder with genres, oppose to strictly classical and acoustics and some well produced stuff of other genres.

post #1976 of 2066
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Originally Posted by dsticker View Post

Now that you mention it, I forgot that I have listened to the JVC HP-DX1000 on the Leben (they're uncomfortable and I rarely use them, LOL).  They have a very slight hum but it's barely noticeable when silent and completely undetectable when music is playing.

The HD 800 sounds very nice on the Leben when listening at louder volumes.  Perhaps they just need time to break in, but they sound much brighter than the LCD3.  Particularly with acoustic guitar, the sound is more detailed but a bit too bright.  Soundstage is where the HD 800 clearly defeats the LCD3, not that the LCD3 is weak in that regard but it just can't compete with the renowned soundstage king.  This is all pretty much as I was expecting.  Overall I definitely prefer the LCD3, but I didn't get the HD 800 for the Leben anyway.

The HD800 will always be a lot brighter than LCD3.
post #1977 of 2066
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Of all amps I've head with the HD800, the DNA Sonett, Lehmann Black cube, HDVD800,  Trafomatic Head One, Crack, some WOO amps etc, no one is as good a match for sheer musical enjoyment as the Leben with these cans.  Going from the worst pairing which is the Lehman that is an analytical and dry SS amp to the luscious Leben is a revelation.
The HD800 need some bloom in order to come alive and be suited for music were the end result is to be emotionally moved.
With the bass boost of the Leben you almost make them an allrounder with genres, oppose to strictly classical and acoustics and some well produced stuff of other genres.

That's what I thought too when I had a brief listen. As a former HD800 owner who sold them because of them being too bright, the Leben made me kinda want to get them back.. Except for the hum. But I have the higher power resistors, which gives more hum.
post #1978 of 2066

so ... then have some problems with some headphones the leben cs300xs?

post #1979 of 2066
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so ... then have some problems with some headphones the leben cs300xs?

Yes, some have problems with sensitive high impedance headphones, and some have not.

The two versions with different headphone resistors might explain some of it. Some experience tube related hum, and some have had a burnt resistor.

We are not really all sorted out on this.

If you consider a Leben for high impedance headphones, you should try before you buy. Planars, and low impedance cans generally (?) however seem to be safe.

But the sound is worth it!
Edited by ardilla - 10/13/13 at 2:22am
post #1980 of 2066

For us HUMMERS I started a thread over at the DIY departement in hope of getting some expertise form over there :)

 

Magnetic shielding of trafo inside Leben amp: 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/686511/magnetic-shielding-of-trafo-inside-leben-amp

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