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post #121 of 2087
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Originally Posted by achristilaw View Post

Just so you know...if the Leben isn't running, allow one hour fifteen to one hour twenty minutes warm-up. You can hammer after ten minutes, most tube amps need at least an hour to sync...the Leben needs a wee bit more!


Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that tube amps needed an hour to sync and I have owned a whole slew of tube amps for almost a year. Ya learn sump-tin every day. So maybe while the Leben is warming up I can have a burrito and a Margarita--or maybe just a Margarita. That should really put my hearing perception in tip-top share (if not tipsy shape)

post #122 of 2087

Alan is just talking about for absolute best performance.  I often use it after 5 minutes, and it still sounds great.  But longer warm-up is always better.

post #123 of 2087

Great! Then 5 minutes it is (or thereabouts). Then I only have enough time for a shot of tequila before listening.

post #124 of 2087

Does anyone know how I can buy one new.

 

I don't want to buy one from a US importer and pay the high middle man fee.

 

I think PriceJapan is kind of steep considering they want $2400 for something that sells for $1800 in Japan.

 

Another option is to go to Japan and buy it in person, but that will have to wait until I am ready to go on vacation over there.

 

Lastly, I was thinking if anyone knew a company in Japan that can ship it over here to the States.

post #125 of 2087
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Hey arnesto

 

I do not think that $2400 is too excessive considering the exchange rate, shipping and fees. From what I can tell, anyplace selling CS300Xs will order from Leben for around MRSP 180,000 yen which would be around $2000 US and then add another $225 or so for shipping plus some fees to Price Japan or whomever else you would order from. Maybe there are some better deals out there but I did not really see anything. Were you just converting 180,000 yen to 1800 US?

 

You might be able to save a few hundred dollars if you go for the CS300 though but I did not see that one listed on Price Japan.

post #126 of 2087

TigzStudio, I think Luxman may have something equivalent, I don't know much about tubes, but I think they might match up like this;

 

Luxman SQ-38u   = Leben CS600

Luxman SQ-N100 = Leben CS300 or CS300XS ?

 

Similar pricing.

 

I haven't heard the Luxman tube amps.

 

I believe similar to the Leben's, the speaker output is redirected to the headphone output.  From what I can tell, instead of a headphone / speaker switch, the headphone is always on and you switch the speakers off.

 

There is some discussion on Audiogon comparing the two brands and a 6moons review.  I know TTVJ is a Luxman dealer.

post #127 of 2087

I found a post by Todd that said the SQ-N100's headphone amp was more P200 than P1u territory. Open to interpretation, of course. 


Edited by Ypoknons - 7/1/10 at 3:43am
post #128 of 2087

Skylab, so, can I say you like your Leben more than your Extreme? :)

Anyone have some comparison?

 

I auditioned Leben at my local store with my HD650, I heard a very slight 'bzzzz', but once the music's playing, it so soft it doesn't affect the music. 

It's really nice, I admit, the 3D holographic sound, is the best I heard out from my HD650, amazin!.  The only complain is the volume control, it's a bit too powerful, I basically can only listen at 8.00 - 8.30 only.


Edited by RedBull - 7/1/10 at 8:17am
post #129 of 2087
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

Skylab, so, can I say you like your Leben more than your Extreme? :)

Anyone have some comparison?

 

I auditioned Leben at my local store with my HD650, I heard a very slight 'bzzzz', but once the music's playing, it so soft it doesn't affect the music. 

It's really nice, I admit, the 3D holographic sound, is the best I heard out from my HD650, amazin!.  The only complain is the volume control, it's a bit too powerful, I basically can only listen at 8.00 - 8.30 only.


Yes, MUCH better than the Extreme.

 

I put in the lower-gain 5751 driver tubes, and now I use the volume control about 9:00 - still a bit low, but it's not an issue for actual usage.

post #130 of 2087

The Leben is the go to amp of choice for the Audez'e. I can't wax enough superlatives to do justice of the sound-properties that this amp possesses when used in tandem. For Ortho's I'm on a Ultra-Linear Pentode kick... I have commissioned Steve of Decware fame to build the TORII MKIII for headphone use. He's accepted and it will be a few weeks yet for the product to arrive at the door. He has a few tricks up the sleeve and I'm all twitterpated and looking forward to the result!

 

post #131 of 2087
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

Alan is just talking about for absolute best performance.  I often use it after 5 minutes, and it still sounds great.  But longer warm-up is always better.



Yeah, I'm that kinda guy...sorry....

post #132 of 2087
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

Skylab, so, can I say you like your Leben more than your Extreme? :)

Anyone have some comparison?

 

I auditioned Leben at my local store with my HD650, I heard a very slight 'bzzzz', but once the music's playing, it so soft it doesn't affect the music. 

It's really nice, I admit, the 3D holographic sound, is the best I heard out from my HD650, amazin!.  The only complain is the volume control, it's a bit too powerful, I basically can only listen at 8.00 - 8.30 only.


I do not hear any buzz with any of my phones.My W5000 are very sensitive and hisses a lot with the CTH but is completely silent with the CS300.

 

As for volume, sure, it's not much on the dial, but I can adjust the volume perfectly all the way down to zero without channel imbalance even with the very sensitive W5000, so I have no problem with it.

post #133 of 2087

I have a very slight buzz on my most sensitive headphones.  Can't hear it at all with my LCD-2, Ed 8, HE-5LE, D7000, or T1.  Very slight with W1000X.  More noticeable with the DX1000, but the DX1000 has revealed very small noises of lots of amps that I couldn't hear any noise with any other headphones.

 

And to be clear - all of the above is with NO music playing - can't hear it at ALL with music playing, with any headphones.

 

I bet I could get rid of it with tube rolling, though.  But I like the sound of the tubes I have in there, and it doesn't buzz at all with the LCD-2 or Ed 8, which are mostly what I use with it.

post #134 of 2087

 

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Originally Posted by achristilaw View Post

Just so you know...if the Leben isn't running, allow one hour fifteen to one hour twenty minutes warm-up. You can hammer after ten minutes, most tube amps need at least an hour to sync...the Leben needs a wee bit more!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

Alan is just talking about for absolute best performance.  I often use it after 5 minutes, and it still sounds great.  But longer warm-up is always better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by achristilaw View Post

Yeah, I'm that kinda guy...sorry....


No apology necessary. You've both given me a time frame to warm up my tube amp. After all, some days I can only listen for an hour (before work) and other days it's for hours (after work/weekends). Thanks.

post #135 of 2087
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post




Yes, MUCH better than the Extreme.

 

I put in the lower-gain 5751 driver tubes, and now I use the volume control about 9:00 - still a bit low, but it's not an issue for actual usage.


I guess this begs the question: Are the volume steps too great as you turn the knob, to be able to find the volume of choice, i generally like lowish volume? If I am listening with FOOBAR on my computer, can I just turn the volume know down on foobar and, in effect, lower the gain of the signal to the leben? Or will that distort the sound in some way?

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