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AKG K1000 Bass: decent or lacking?

post #1 of 41
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I am actually pleasently surprised by the K1000's bass, when people said it was attenuated I actually thought it really was (like a K701 for instance), but I can actually hear all the bass that is recorded on tracks (I think until 30hz, but below that I simply don't know what is recorded, so I can't verify), and also with alot more impact than my stax can offer.

Please state on which amplifier you have tried them/use them. I use them on a SPL Phonitor, which seems to drive them perfectly (plenty of power, and with the speaker angle function, its quite literally 85% as listening to speakers).

They have definetly become my go-to cans, and I can really trust them with my music production, which so far was only possible with the SR-X (with bass boosted), the Pro900 (though not as flat) and LNS (lacking bass impact). I actually wish I had bought them much earlier, would'v saved me alot of money .

Anyway, my bass is decent to say the least. Yesterday I was watching a movie using them to test them out, and it was just perfect, I totally forgot I was actually listening to earspeakers, the placement was perfect, and the bass (though can't feel it through your whole body as a sub) was also as close to perfect as I have yet encountered on a headphone/earspeaker (only had a short time with O2's, so I can't judge/compare them really, and haven't heard Jade's or HE60/90).

This makes me wonder, I didn't consider myself a 'bass-sensitive' person, and I listen to plenty of bass-heavy music, where it is definetly a big part of the track. I can name plenty of headphones that really lacked bass, but this K1000 isn't one of them. It doesn't have the same bass as a ultrasone, but I think alot of that has to do with the fact that its a open design contrary to the enclosed design of ultrasones.

Enough raving of me about the K1000, I would like to know if there are more people out there that actually think the K1000's (or more specificly, their K1000) has adequate bass.

Cheers,

Victor
post #2 of 41
If you can run a sweep... where do they start rolling off?
post #3 of 41
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Just checked, the real roll off starts at about 40 hz, but 30hz is still audible. It doesn't like 29-20hz, then the roll off becomes very steep, and I can't hear 20hz by keeping the same value, offcourse my own ears come to play with this test too. Below 30hz is just silence
post #4 of 41
Slightly (barely) lacking in the bottom most octave...but for most music it simply doesn't matter. The bass in my setup is very taut, textured, impactful, and of the highest quality. Very likely the best I have heard from a headphone....period. (including the OIIs and He 1.2B)
post #5 of 41
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Just checked, the real roll off starts at about 40 hz, but 30hz is still very audible. It doesn't like 29-20hz, then the roll off becomes very steep, and I can't hear 20hz by keeping the same value, offcourse my own ears come to play with this test too.
Hmm... seems like it would be appropriate for most forms of acoustical and pop.
For some classical and electronic it would be noticeable (with films as well).

Ever hook up a sub and use it in combination?
post #6 of 41
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I dunno, I listen to alot of electronic music (and produce it myself), but its really not the same as in a club, with or without a subwoofer. And that is actually a good thing, I want to produce it with good quality, because if you play bad quality (or overboosted) bass in a club they will run away in fear. For a headphone to be almost flat untill 30hz, I am really impressed to say the least. Besides impact, I think the 20-30hz is the most useless of the whole 20-20000hz .
post #7 of 41
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Besides impact, I think the 20-30hz is the most useless of the whole 20-20000hz .
Eh I would disagree... quite important to some music and films. I have used an EQ to cut off my can's response below 35hz and did not like it very much.

I dunno... I am one who gets a big kick out of sub bass (Going to build a IB woofer someday... 10 hz here I come : P).
post #8 of 41
My K1000 have more than 'decent' bass performance. Its well controlled with lots of punch, but it is a bit lacking when it comes to bass extension. Then again I compare it to the SR-007BL, which may be one of greatest ones when it comes to bass extension.

Driven by the Signature 30.2
post #9 of 41
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Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
Eh I would disagree... quite important to some music and films. I have used an EQ to cut off my can's response below 35hz and did not like it very much.

I dunno... I am one who gets a big kick out of sub bass (Going to build a IB woofer someday... 10 hz here I come : P).
Thats fine, I would rather miss 20-30 than for instance 1000-1020, thats just what I think. I have no music where I feel 20-30hz is important (and that even includes hard-style etc.), and for movies I agree, but I want to feel explosions, so a sub is the only way, no headphone can ever make my body rumble (or it shouldn't at least haha). My main point of this post was however that I was expecting from reading comments, that the K1000 was a really bass shy headphone, and now I have one, and am only missing 20-30hz, I'm just shocked, there are so many headphones out there that have a steep roll off at 30hz and many times already before that.
post #10 of 41
Ever try the 1812 Overture on them?
post #11 of 41
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No not yet, but I guess you would indeed miss the canons, but again, I want to 'feel' the canons, just hearing a low tone of 20hz doesn't justify the canons for me
post #12 of 41
Hmmm....

Some one should hook up one of those Butt Kicker transducers in combination with the 1000s...

My god that would be an awesome experience.
post #13 of 41
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Hahaha yes indeed ! K1000 + sub + buttkicker. Btw how many of you use crossfeed with your K1000's?
post #14 of 41
I use Virtual Dynamics Genesis headphone cable for my K1000, there is no problem with bass. The headphone cable has a lot to do with it. Stock cable + HD590 has much less bass than K1000 + 16awg Valhalla. Daisy chaining Genesis into the Valhalla boosts up the bass further.
post #15 of 41
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Originally Posted by derekbmn View Post
The bass in my setup is very taut, textured, impactful, and of the highest quality. Very likely the best I have heard from a headphone....period. (including the OIIs and He 1.2B)
Could not have said it better. I prefer the K-1000 bass to the HE-90 as well - actually any headphone.

I use the Aleph 30 which is very tube sounding. The Firstwatt F1 actually gives more bass, exctends it further and controls the K-1000s drivers incredibly well, but it can sound a bit mechanical or clinical, so I actually like the Aleph a bit better.
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