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post #286 of 390

I found this thread today after looking for a while and I have a suggestion. I have some TUrttle beach PX-21 ear cups and they will fit with a little fidgeting. http://imgur.com/grUyrGk


Edited by alwayzpr0 - 3/23/13 at 7:58pm
post #287 of 390

I've been messing around with measurement mics and I found out why I hated the DT250 pads.  Just keep in mind this is early in my experiments so these are not super accurate.  With that said, the problem is obvious.

 

Stock pads in yellow, DT250 in blue.

 

The tape mod really helps.  I first tried one strip of tape and it was better, but there were still problems.  This is with all of the holes covered.

 

The downside is, if my measurements are correct, it introduces a lot of ringing at about 10k.  That improves with the foam disc, but is still there.

 

Like I said, I literally just started messing with this stuff.  This is just the first things I found.

 

I'll keep experimenting when I get the chance and report back here if I find anything interesting biggrin.gif.
 

post #288 of 390

I have ATH-M50 and I know the problem, reminds me of ear defenders I used to use a lot in work they had pleather type pads, they are awful after long use and being active in them also. 

 

I found these helped a lot though and it could be a cheap solution for those who dont really want to modify their cans, Im not sure if theyll fit yet but I'll buy some and find out, Im sure they could be trimmed to fit but I dont know if they are anywhere near so Ill let you know, dont waste your money yet !!

 

 

Just Google  - Bilsom Cool II, you can get them on ebay usually for a couple of £ / $ 's. Or try your local workwear supplier, some places of work use loads of them.

 

 

 

 

Bilsom Cool II

 

ATH-M50 are awesome cans by the way !!! Shame they didnt do Velour pads.


Edited by speaker-freak - 5/7/13 at 3:01pm
post #289 of 390

 

 

 

They fit smile.gif they are not a perfect fit but they do the necessary, its an improvement for me. They are self adhesive but its very light so they shouldn't do any damage. I much prefer the feel of this felt type material on my skin to the pleather, I used to wear ear defenders all day and it was very sweaty but these did improve things alot.
 


Edited by speaker-freak - 5/9/13 at 3:01am
post #290 of 390
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DT250Earpad/

I have those on my M50's (they fit perfectly).

The most notable change would be a boost in bass, and an overall more balanced sound. Plus comfort goes up immensely.
post #291 of 390
i dont know how a headphone that is already unbalanced due to a big boost of all bass frequencies can get another boost in bass and still strike you as "balanced". What other balanced/neutral cans have you heard?
post #292 of 390
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Originally Posted by speaker-freak View Post

 

 

 

They fit smile.gif they are not a perfect fit but they do the necessary, its an improvement for me. They are self adhesive but its very light so they shouldn't do any damage. I much prefer the feel of this felt type material on my skin to the pleather, I used to wear ear defenders all day and it was very sweaty but these did improve things alot.
 

This isn't a question, but a statement. These pads will change the headphones sound quality. They're great for use in a work environment, but NOT for use with a set of hp's, where the sq is what matters. This will muffle the sound, as that's what hearing protection does. Suggesting this sounds more like a sales pitch,...this is not a viable option.

post #293 of 390
Sorry for the double post,...

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Originally Posted by xxicrimsonixx View Post

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DT250Earpad/

I have those on my M50's (they fit perfectly).

The most notable change would be a boost in bass, and an overall more balanced sound. Plus comfort goes up immensely.

These pads were what I used,...they fit good and cut the hfi-780's sibilance to an acceptable level. They also worked great on the ath-m50's. These seem to be the go-to pads for most hp's. 


Edited by tds101 - 5/9/13 at 10:58am
post #294 of 390
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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post

This isn't a question, but a statement. These pads will change the headphones sound quality. They're great for use in a work environment, but NOT for use with a set of hp's, where the sq is what matters. This will muffle the sound, as that's what hearing protection does. Suggesting this sounds more like a sales pitch,...this is not a viable option.

 

Its just an option/opinion I wanted to share. If you want to waste your money on totally changing the pads thats up to the individual. I personally do not think it makes any difference in sound quality inside the hp, if it does its miniscule. Its hardly a sales pitch these pads cost next to nothing most people on here are willing to replace whole pads by using other headphone velor pads at a much greater cost. Ive been an ‘audiophile’ for over 20 years and Ive literally spent thousands over the years and a lot of it wasted money in a quest for 'better sound' but most of it is total BS.

 

Fancy a good read just google - Testing audiophile claims and myths

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/486598/testing-audiophile-claims-and-myths

 

Besides this I still think the audio technica ath-m50 sound great and they leave very little out, in my opinion. I tried the ATH-M50 and the AKG271mkII side by side and if it was down to comfort the AKG won hands down for me with the velor pads but the sound was no comparison. I personally had to have the AT, and this was also an opinion of others who were with me at the time. I dislike having pleather on my skin for long periods as it does get too warm, these pads are not pretty but they do improve things for me.


Edited by speaker-freak - 5/11/13 at 12:33am
post #295 of 390
Dude, I'm one of the guys who questions myths constantly. You can't preach to the pastor!!! This isn't a cable, or a coat hanger. I do hp mods, and I swap pads. The product does change the sq, and so do different pads. It's been measured,...unlike the "myths".

The difference is the product you suggested is something I use in my line of work. It's hearing protection based,...it's DESIGNED to wick sweat. It can also muffle sound. And it's not exactly an attractive solution. I use stuff like this (NYCT Track Maintainer) at work.

As for which hp you prefer most, that's a personal choice. There's no "one size fits all". But this is about swapping pads for comfort as well as looks. Velour pads look great, are comfortable, and minimally change sq. they do cut the highs a bit.
post #296 of 390
Quote:
 You can't preach to the pastor!!! This isn't a cable, or a coat hanger. I do hp mods, and I swap pads. The product does change the sq, and so do different pads. It's been measured,...unlike the "myths".

 

I dont care really, I just thought it may help someone out rather than faffing around modifying things, and as for being measured if you measured the coat hanger vs $$$$ cable there will be different measurements everything has different measurements, don't get sucked in man its all BS like I said, I not saying there is not good hifi/technology out there but this audiophile thing just goes to far at times, people just want you to waste time and spend money. If something sounds good then go with it, reviews are just guides and measurements dont mean a thing, everyone has different level of hearing for a start and this is the thing to measure your equipment by.


Edited by speaker-freak - 5/11/13 at 12:29am
post #297 of 390
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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post

This isn't a question, but a statement. These pads will change the headphones sound quality. They're great for use in a work environment, but NOT for use with a set of hp's, where the sq is what matters. This will muffle the sound, as that's what hearing protection does. Suggesting this sounds more like a sales pitch,...this is not a viable option.

 

It is the same pads, just basically puts a piece of fabric between your face and the pleather.  Unless I'm mistaken.

 

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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post

These pads were what I used,...they fit good and cut the hfi-780's sibilance to an acceptable level. They also worked great on the ath-m50's. These seem to be the go-to pads for most hp's. 

 

Wait, you just complained about making the stock pads more comfortable, but you're ok with the DT250 pads? confused_face(1).gif  I bought some DT250 pads and used them for all of 10 minutes before I stuck them in a drawer for a year or so because they ruined the frequency response.

 

I do partially agree though, I think I mentioned earlier I've been using them again with the tape mod.  The problem is the tape has to seal all the holes perfectly or else that dip at about 500hz comes back.  Right now the tape on the bottom of the pads makes them kind of uncomfortable, so that defeats the purpose until I can find a better way of sealing them off.

 

Lately I've been using the shure velour pads which are really comfortable.  I can't say too much about the sound though because when I listen to music I usually am listening at home on my other headphones.  I have measurements, but like I said earlier my mics aren't completely done.  I'll probably post back in this thread sometime when I get around to fixing up the mics and have better results.

 

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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post

Dude, I'm one of the guys who questions myths constantly. You can't preach to the pastor!!! This isn't a cable, or a coat hanger. I do hp mods, and I swap pads. The product does change the sq, and so do different pads. It's been measured,...unlike the "myths".

The difference is the product you suggested is something I use in my line of work. It's hearing protection based,...it's DESIGNED to wick sweat. It can also muffle sound. And it's not exactly an attractive solution. I use stuff like this (NYCT Track Maintainer) at work.

As for which hp you prefer most, that's a personal choice. There's no "one size fits all". But this is about swapping pads for comfort as well as looks. Velour pads look great, are comfortable, and minimally change sq. they do cut the highs a bit.

 

Do you have the measurements?

 

From my experience, the biggest difference between the pads comes from how the pads attach to the headphones.  How the headphones connect to your face does not matter as much.

post #298 of 390

Go to Inner Fidelity and check a few reviews. It's been stated that the earpads change freq response on certain hp's in a review or two. And other members here will state the same, as well as on Anythingbutipod.com.

 

And, fwiw, I didn't personally like the dt250 pads on the m50's - I actually didn't even LIKE the m50's. I loved them on the hfi-780's tho,...the sibilance was atrocious!!! wink_face.gif

 

I do use industrial hearing protection,...and adding additional padding to hp's that is for industrial hearing protection muffles the sound.atsmile.gif


Edited by tds101 - 5/11/13 at 5:55pm
post #299 of 390
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Originally Posted by tds101 View Post

Go to Inner Fidelity and check a few reviews. It's been stated that the earpads change freq response on certain hp's in a review or two. And other members here will state the same, as well as on Anythingbutipod.com.

 

And, fwiw, I didn't personally like the dt250 pads on the m50's - I actually didn't even LIKE the m50's. I loved them on the hfi-780's tho,...the sibilance was atrocious!!! wink_face.gif

 

I do use industrial hearing protection,...and adding additional padding to hp's that is for industrial hearing protection muffles the sound.atsmile.gif

I don't think you read my post confused_face_2.gif.

 

None of that industrial hearing protection goes between the soundwaves and your ears.

post #300 of 390
Different pads = different sound. Thats all there is to it.
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