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post #286 of 1779
7/5/09 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post
well, in a few months Asus will prolly release the "Asus Essence Supa-Dupa ST Deluxe MK2"....and we'll all be screwed all over again
Ar*es just want us to keep parting with our hard earned cash. I'm waiting this out for another 6 months before I make a purchase.
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post #287 of 1779
7/5/09 at 10:58am
No.I just apply to all: COMPLAIN COMPLAIN .... BY ASUS !!!!! I THINK IF THEY ARE GOING
ON THIS WAY THEY WILL LOOSE MANY COSTUMERS.
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post #288 of 1779
7/5/09 at 11:03am
hah, guys...I was kidding

you can't complain against technological improvements.

ppl who bought the JVC RS2 for tons of cash, do you think they're happy about the new models that are WAY better and sell for cheaper?

it's the same w/ everything, CPU's, mobo's, cars....companies constantly release new improved products, these are the roots of capitalism and keep the inve$tors happy...and the customers as well

Auzentech tried and failed. Asus has far more PCB engineering expertise IMHO...and I was in contact w/ HTOmega, the RMAA results for their Claro Halo are laughable.
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post #289 of 1779
7/5/09 at 11:13am
Yes yes...technological improvements. You think they did not have the finished board of ST when they began to sell STX! It was a marketing strategy. This guys at first see only profit!
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post #290 of 1779
7/5/09 at 11:20am
they're the market leaders atm, because they have the best engineers...you can do the hell you want when you're #1. try to imagine what Intel & nvidia would do to us if AMD didn't exist.

hopefully, Auzentech will wake up and show up front...but they don't really have Asus experience w/ PCB shielding apparently. anyway, the ST in a substantial improvement...take your decision from there, but we're not talking about a $5000 unit here
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post #291 of 1779
7/5/09 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by GWorlDofSPACE View Post
Yes yes...technological improvements. You think they did not have the finished board of ST when they began to sell STX! It was a marketing strategy. This guys at first see only profit!
No matter what card you buy there will be another better one released next round. This is the game of PC hardware and should be nothing new.
The trick is to buy a good card the first time out as both cards are still awesome soundcards. Soundcards don't advance as fast as other PC components.
It would seem that the ST was originally slated to be the PCI version of the STX. Last minute additions such as the Clock circuit and Pin_header changed it's purpose just a bit.
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post #292 of 1779
7/5/09 at 11:30am
Yes. I want to upgrade the clock on my stx or maybe st when I sell the stx. I saw its the same chip it 475 on both cards. ROBSCIX you talked about some guys did this I want some more datails please.
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post #293 of 1779
7/5/09 at 11:33am
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On the X-Meridians 7.1 when first released. They added external clock sources, high precision clocks meant for upgrading CD players. I will look around and find the information and PM it to you if your interested in this modification.
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post #294 of 1779
7/5/09 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by DanD View Post
Jitter refers to the drift in actual clock compare to reference clock. What you actually hear as a result of jitter is called phase distortion. Apparently (topic of debate) our ears are very sensitive to phase distortion. It is said that our ears can detect in order of microsecond in term of phase distortion.
I think you nailed it, the improvement is identical as going from a cheapo EQ to a linear phase controlled EQ. it's not distortion per se, it's phase distortion...which ruins the stereo soundstage
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post #295 of 1779
7/5/09 at 11:38am
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@Leeperry. What happened to your "jitter is not audible attitude"?
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post #296 of 1779
7/5/09 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by GWorlDofSPACE View Post
Yes. I want to upgrade the clock on my stx or maybe st when I sell the stx. I saw its the same chip it 475 on both cards. ROBSCIX you talked about some guys did this I want some more datails please.
The ST has a additional chip. Posted informaiton about it many,many pages ago. This chip cleans up the jitter and noise in the XO making the master clock much more precise. Now, if you used a higher quality clock source from the start such as adding in a high precision external unit, it would do exactly the same thing.
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post #297 of 1779
7/5/09 at 12:09pm
Yes, but if I add the external clock to the STX would not be such a great improvement because of the PCI EXPRESS - that told leeperry. So if you buy a ST then an external clock does not matter because of the filtering process of the additional chip. Am I right?
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post #298 of 1779
7/5/09 at 12:12pm
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Why? What your trying to improve with the high precision XO is the Jitter in the master clock that is enabling the DAC...
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post #299 of 1779
7/5/09 at 12:17pm
That would be logical but leeperry said something about the pci express.
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post #300 of 1779
7/5/09 at 12:18pm
why would you wanna play god w/ a <$200 soundcard? sell it on ebay, get the new one. end of story, the resale process will cost you like $50 or so. do you know better than the Asus engineers? do you have the right equipment/knowledge to do that?
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