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post #16 of 1781
Dear Robscix, wich chip is on this board is it the AV100 like STX or the AV200 like HADV1.3 ?
post #17 of 1781
Any idea on the price? Will it be a lot more expensive than the STX?
post #18 of 1781
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Maybe I will see if I can do a side by side with them this week and post it for those interested.
Please, only you now can tell us where is ST and STX differences...
post #19 of 1781
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by fine art acoustic View Post
Dear Robscix, wich chip is on this board is it the AV100 like STX or the AV200 like HADV1.3 ?
The card is exactly the same as the STX except for noted differences such as the PCI interface, clock circuitry and the Pin header.
post #20 of 1781
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Originally Posted by henuM View Post
Please, only you now can tell us where is ST and STX differences...
I will see what I can do and possibly test both side by side this week.
I noted a difference in the signature but there wasn't a noticible quality change, where the ST was much better then the STX.
post #21 of 1781
Hey Robscix! it looks like the st has the power 4-pin header like the stx, is that so? to me, one of the main virtues of the stx is that it can be powered by an external, quiet, good sounding linear supply-- and the card's peformance justifies doing so.

not that the st would make me switch, but theat external psu connector would be a great selling point. (that and 32bit asio support!)
post #22 of 1781
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Yes, the card offers the same power distribution of the STX.
post #23 of 1781
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I am going to be doing some opamps tests with this new card. I will post the results when done.
post #24 of 1781
Any more news on a release date for this? You mention that Asus has a quick release cycle but I'm unsure if that implies that we'll be waiting a matter of weeks for this card or Christmas! I'm hoping that since its mainly an adaptation of the STX that it'll be the former but am concerned that I've heard nothing of the ST apart from on this forum!
post #25 of 1781
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I will see what informaiton I can find out for you.

I did a sneak peak for the card, that is where this thread comes from.

I don't think anybody can really release any other info as I have not heard of anybody else with this card. Not until the production version comes out that is.

I still have the ST 7.1 and I am enjoying it and experimenting with it.
post #26 of 1781
The article was not very good. It does not even mention what are the ports on the daughtercard. Does it support full 7.1 audio?
post #27 of 1781
As according to a techgage review of the STX, it says that:

"At the heart of the Xonar Essence STX is the ASUS AV100 audio processor, which is based on the C-Media CMI8788 OxygenHD processor ... The AV100 can process up to 8 channels of audio, and it's used in ASUS' Xonar D1 and DX, but in this application with only two channels in use, it produces even more pristine audio clarity. The AV200 audio processor used on the Xonar D2, D2X, and HDAV1.3 cards, which is a higher-binned version of the CMI8788 processor, is able to maintain the same audio quality with all eight channels passing a signal at the same time, but the AV100 is able to achieve the necessary levels of performance in a two-channel application."

Why would they not use the AV200 in the 7.1 edition of the STX, (being the ST)? I just figure that the AV200 would be more advanced than the AV100? But specs don't always tell the story I guess...

Surely they'll just call this 'new' card the Essence ST Deluxe (as it has the H6 DAC expansion card)?

I run Ultrasone HFI-580 cans or my Logitech Z5500Ds, so I too have been waiting for a multichannel version of the STX.

In any case, I'm really interested to see how the Essence ST goes against the Auzen Forte!
post #28 of 1781
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I think the designers would know more about the chip then techgage would.

The ST is not meant to be the 7.1 version of the STX, the ST is just mean for a different application.

There is also no fixed date on when the ST will be released or in what configuration.
post #29 of 1781
ok, well it's not the 7.1 version of the STX, but it's basically still the mighty headphone amp soundcard that we witnessed as the STX, but with the capacity to output to 8 channels via analog output - yes?

also, in relation to the AV100 vs AV200: surely since this card is now a multichannel card, it should utilise the AV200 as in the HDAV and D2X cards, as opposed to the AV100?

is it predominately the fact that the STX has a dedicated headphone amp that makes it that much better than other soundcards we've seen to date?

for all intents and purposes the ST really does look to lend itself as being called an 'Essence ST Deluxe' - but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

the whole point of the new card is such that end-users can hook up their multichannel speakers - to what is an awesome headphone soundcard (the STX) that now caters for multichannel setups as well (in the form of the ST), and to a (much) lesser extent, for those who want a PCI card.

i wonder whether asus will in fact produce an Essence STX Deluxe in addition to the Essence ST Deluxe (forgive my preliminary naming of the cards - but I think you get my drift), that is to say, will Asus produce a PCIe version of this card we have witnessed in the sneak-peak?

i, for one, seem to think it might be worth the wait over getting a D2X for those multichannel setups, or perhaps even an Auzen Forte for the same reason - but as I said - we'll have to wait and see.

PS. whilst understanding that you can't do a 'test' against the Auzen Forte or other such cards, Robscix, perhaps you can tell us in your opinion how it might compare to the likes of said cards? ;-)
post #30 of 1781
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Yes, the ST "Deluxe" version offers 7.1 analog and the same headphone amplifier chip as the STX.

I think the STX is so popular because of the sound quality of the card. The headphone amplifier is nice for those that need it but only a feature of the card.

Yes, I think when the card is released it will follow a similar naming convention to other ASUS Xonar soundcards.

The ST offers higher quality analog quality then the D2X.

The ST is a formidable analog soundcard and will become one of the top soundcards when released.
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