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post #31 of 297
3/14/09 at 2:44am
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Originally Posted by Drag0n View Post
You cant even feel sorry for the guy either. Mikhail has shown up at meets since the problem started and nobody has killed him.
If he was having genuine problems with money, youd think he would have stopped collecting orders and payments and apologized to those affected and made payments to fix the problem, or sent amps or something.

I say tar and feather him at the National Meet, post the episode on YouTube, and put the video on the Head-Fi front page.
In one of the past threads about this, i think its a sticky, someone said they knew where he lived. If it was my $5700, id go there and wont say what id do, but when i finished, id be going home with a few amps and no possible way of getting customer service....ever!
$5 says you wouldn't do anything approaching this, because it doesn't matter what state you're in, assault is assault, and going to prison over $5700 is pretty ridiculous imho

so lets stop with the personal threats of violence against the guy, alright?
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post #32 of 297
3/14/09 at 2:53am
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Originally Posted by Drag0n View Post
You cant even feel sorry for the guy either. Mikhail has shown up at meets since the problem started and nobody has killed him.
If he was having genuine problems with money, youd think he would have stopped collecting orders and payments and apologized to those affected and made payments to fix the problem, or sent amps or something.

I say tar and feather him at the National Meet, post the episode on YouTube, and put the video on the Head-Fi front page.
In one of the past threads about this, i think its a sticky, someone said they knew where he lived. If it was my $5700, id go there and wont say what id do, but when i finished, id be going home with a few amps and no possible way of getting customer service....ever!
If he's still taking orders and money then i'd say there was a serious problem.

However getting yourself brought up on assault charges wouldnt be worth it. Especially since you'd probably just be bringing home boxes full of wall warts

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Originally Posted by FallenAngel View Post
Fraud is fraud, get police involved, some things simply go too far.
Just as a note for those that dont know [i see you do], make sure to contact his local police dept. if you're in a different state. Your local law enforcement has no jurisdiction in another state.
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post #33 of 297
3/14/09 at 4:28am
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Originally Posted by Skin View Post
Just as a note for those that dont know [i see you do], make sure to contact his local police dept. if you're in a different state. Your local law enforcement has no jurisdiction in another state.
This situation may fall under the jurisdiction of the feds, using the mail to commit fraud etc. A lawyer became involved and said there was nothing more to be done. I'd believe the lawyer, but at the same time I'd still be filing complaints to anyone who'd take a complaint.
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post #34 of 297
3/14/09 at 4:33am
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Originally Posted by IceClass View Post
No,
I have no clue what you mean.
clueless...see post #26.
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post #35 of 297
3/14/09 at 4:36am
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Originally Posted by GreatDane View Post
clueless...see post #26.
Lol.
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post #36 of 297
3/14/09 at 5:19am
Shrug MikeLa has been in talks with an attorney for awhile.. months. He knows exactly what his options are now. Even if he were to form a class action law suit and win there is very possibly nothing to collect. Even verifying that there might be something to collect would cost a lot of money... and who knows if it will still be there to collect after he and others win. Moreover even if there is something collection isn't easy or cheap.
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post #37 of 297
3/14/09 at 5:40am
It now bugs me in a weird, personal way that I was adjacent next to him at the last local San Jose meet.
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post #38 of 297
3/14/09 at 6:06am
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Originally Posted by TheMarchingMule View Post
It now bugs me in a weird, personal way that I was adjacent next to him at the last local San Jose meet.
Should have politely asked him for some business management tips.
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post #39 of 297
3/14/09 at 8:19am
Crooks. Hate hate hate.
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post #40 of 297
3/14/09 at 11:58am
Really sorry to hear about your loss. I purchased a SP MPX3 maxed out in the FS forum. Amp arrived damaged, but was insured. I got an estimate from SP for repairing it which was 1.2K. I am thankful that USPS just paid the insured amount and took the amp. Dealing with him would have driven me NUTS.
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post #41 of 297
3/14/09 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by Rob T View Post
Holy cow. You paid $5700 back in 2007? I assume this was not paid with a credit card?

If not, how was it paid? Through the mail? If so, that is mail fraud and it is actually a Federal offense.

Unbelievable. What state is he in? Time to get a private investigator involved, do an asset search, etc.

I doubt Single Power is actually incorporated, but if they are, you can find out all the info from the states secretary of state on who to serve with a summons and complaint. I don't think it would cost as much as you think.
If they aren't making taxes on it, they won't get involved.
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post #42 of 297
3/14/09 at 12:59pm
I am so sorry to here this news.

I hope that you have the resources to weather this loss.

I lost a set of GS 1000's with a Blackdragon XLR cable on it's way to Italy. I was stupid enough to listen to the girl at the USPS and sent it first class mail. It is gone no way to trace it poof. I know what it's like to let it go!

I hope good things come your way!
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post #43 of 297
3/14/09 at 1:00pm
I'm not directly involved but the whole story sounds really sad. Being involved in law enforcement institutions previously and having a bit of knowledge about US legal system this is hardly possible that none of you can sue the guy. I mean I can understand approach of the person that lost 5.7k and money for the attorney but then going this way maybe Dodge will start to promise 90k Charger SRT for the people instead of providing the product.
I just cannot believe it. Here in Europe we have our own problems with bad law but honestly I thought there's no way that such a ..... would walk away with people's money in the US.
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post #44 of 297
3/14/09 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post
If they aren't making taxes on it, they won't get involved.
No kidding!
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post #45 of 297
3/14/09 at 1:57pm
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Originally Posted by Aethelred View Post
I'm not directly involved but the whole story sounds really sad. Being involved in law enforcement institutions previously and having a bit of knowledge about US legal system this is hardly possible that none of you can sue the guy. I mean I can understand approach of the person that lost 5.7k and money for the attorney but then going this way maybe Dodge will start to promise 90k Charger SRT for the people instead of providing the product.
I just cannot believe it. Here in Europe we have our own problems with bad law but honestly I thought there's no way that such a ..... would walk away with people's money in the US.
Thing is the guy may have no money. Then what would suing accomplish because spending more money on the legal system? This isn't some sort of big above board business who's financial information is public domain so you know its doing well and has money. This is one dodgy ass mofo who may be broke... or have his money structured in such a way that it is next to impossible to collect. Plus even if his business was profitable before with how his rep is now and the economy and how he pisses money away on flying out to deliver/fix tardy/broken amps or mails things out one day shipping back and forth...

I'm not saying it's a lost cause. On the other thread someone recommended contacting the Colorado Attorney general. If there are any approaches that are cheap/free then definitely take that route... but
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