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post #931 of 1139

Big thanks to OP for this awesome tutorial. :happy_face1:

I'm using EasyQ on foobar and the result is fantastic.

My Audio Technica TAD300 now sounds excellent.

post #932 of 1139

I got as far as lowering the db in Electri-Q to remove any hiss(I guess?). Thing is, I don't have any hiss...

 

In fact I have no sound at all when running Electri-Q and Foobar simultaneously.


Edited by Saraya - 2/11/14 at 1:00pm
post #933 of 1139

Can you effectively equalize per music genre?

 

I am delighted to see this thread is still active. I reserve the right to still clarify exactly what the dictates equalization are since I am not 100% sure I have follow them exactly. But for now I have a question that is haunting me more.

 

I am a very Neo fight newbie to this I dear of using audiophile quality equipment to listen to your music, but how much I was able to improve listening to a headset after equalizing it inspires me to get greatly improved equipment.

 

I really splurged on what I consider expensive equipment most of which is scheduled to come from China no sooner than March 20. Consequently my attention turns to headphones.

 

I am very much thinking of getting Beyerdynamic DT880 in its 600 ohm version I originally was thinking of getting Beyerdynamic headphone which was much more deeply discounted at Amazon. It seems that the 600 ohm version comes the most highly recommended on these forums. And I also have ordered an appropriate tube headphone amplifier which delivers its maximum power at this 600 ohms. But the expense of buying the not deeply discounted Beyerdynamic DT880 600 ohm version has me wondering if that's what I want to do.

 

I ordered my DAC and headphone tube amplifier first in order that I might purchase my first audiophile quality headphones at Amazon where I could return them if necessary. But the price at Amazon is so much higher than the prices at eBay it leaves me with a few questions that you all may be able to answer. The headphones I am most thinking of buying mentioned above excels at the classical genre, which I love, but I also most love the great American songbook genre, the very classic rock genre and others.

 

So what is the practicality of buying a peer of headphones which are best suited for the classical genre and tweaking them with equalization to be good with all the other genre's of music I like?

 

I also have the same question of tweaking them per genre in regard to tube rolling if it is not practical to tweak headphones per genre with EQ.

 

Also do any of you all know of other vendors besides Amazon who are so liberal with their return policies that you could return headphones with no hassle?

post #934 of 1139
Yeah, I'd say equalizing them per genre is easy. That's what most people who just dabble in EQ usually do. Consumer grade EQs offer an overload of genre EQ presets...
post #935 of 1139
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

Yeah, I'd say equalizing them per genre is easy. That's what most people who just dabble in EQ usually do. Consumer grade EQs offer an overload of genre EQ presets...

OK

 

It's been like pulling nails (very hard if you're not familiar with that expression) to get anyone to say what you have just said to me on these forms perhaps I was just repeatedly asking in all the wrong places.

 

Well I don't know then if just equalizing could've shown me more wondrous wonders that I have already seen with just a Plantronics 780 equalized headset, but I was so enthusiastic about what I heard I said to myself I really need audiophile quality equipment and have committed a fair amount the money for a DAC and tube headphone amplifier which will be coming from China about March 20.

 

Consequently I am turning my attention to headphone selection. why I was selecting the DAC and amplifier first because I was thinking of using a headphone vendor like Amazon which would let you do a return on headphones if you didn't like them and I needed a quality way to drive them first.

 

So I have more questions that I am asking in this first response to your responde. But the thing I am most wondering is and headphone selection are there colorations are characteristics that are inherent  to the headphones in themselves respectful to their frequency response? I am driving at is headphone selection for always equalized headphones different then headphone selection was sometimes equalized headphones?

 

And if you don't know the answer to the question above could you suggest where I may go for that answer? I mean getting answers has sometimes been very hard here.


Edited by bbmiller - 2/12/14 at 6:09am
post #936 of 1139
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Originally Posted by bbmiller View Post

OK

It's been like pulling nails (very hard if you're not familiar with that expression) to get anyone to say what you have just said to me on these forms perhaps I was just repeatedly asking in all the wrong places.

Well I don't know then if just equalizing could've shown me more wondrous wonders that I have already seen with just a Plantronics 780 equalized headset, but I was so enthusiastic about what I heard I said to myself I really need audiophile quality equipment and have committed a fair amount the money for a DAC and tube headphone amplifier which will be coming from China about March 20.

Consequently I am turning my attention to headphone selection. why I was selecting the DAC and amplifier first because I was thinking of using a headphone vendor like Amazon which would let you do a return on headphones if you didn't like them and I needed a quality way to drive them first.

So I have more questions that I am asking in this first response to your responde. But the thing I am most wondering is and headphone selection are there colorations are characteristics that are inherent  to the headphones in themselves respectful to their frequency response? I am driving at is headphone selection for always equalized headphones different then headphone selection was sometimes equalized headphones?

And if you don't know the answer to the question above could you suggest where I may go for that answer? I mean getting answers has sometimes been very hard here.

If you plan to EQ your headphones all the time there are a few things I'd look for:
1. Comfort. People who take the sound of a pair of headphones to be set in stone will apparently sometimes accept wearing a pair of spikes stabbing their ears if they happen to have the perfect sound for them. Well, bollocks to that, I say. I'd rather take a pair of comfortable phones that are not the best sounding out of the box if there's so much I can do to the sound afterwards.
2. Low frequency extension. There's nothing you can do with an EQ about a bass that rolls off into nothingness. So I would look for phones that have good low frequency extension to start with.
3. Well documented. If your phones have been measured by several premier headphone review sites, you will have much more guidance when EQing them as to what is considered a reference tuning with these phones.

Finally, you may find more answers to questions of the tack you're taking in this forum:
http://www.head-fi.org/f/133/sound-science
post #937 of 1139

Hi Joe,

 

Any thoughts to what I am doing wrong? I expected to be able to hear sound while Electri-Q is open, and then adjust my dB accordingly.

post #938 of 1139
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Originally Posted by Saraya View Post

Hi Joe,

Any thoughts to what I am doing wrong? I expected to be able to hear sound while Electri-Q is open, and then adjust my dB accordingly.

Did you install Electri-Q as the standalone app or as the VST plugin? The latter is what you're supposed to do--and then load it into foobar using one of the two VST wrappers available.
post #939 of 1139

Yes, I did install with VST plugin, though did not have the VST wrapper. Did I completely read over that part?

 

 

Also, I was slightly confused by this section :

"Once you have found the resonant peaks, it is possible to create a list that contains a reference frequencies (say 500hz and 1000hz) to compare to the resonant frequency at several different amplitudes. Here, take a look:

 

Here I am comparing 500 and 1000hz to different levels of 7500hz. Higher level numbers equal lower amplitudes (kind of counter intuitive, but whatever). By quickly switching back and forth between my reference frequencies and the resonant frequency I can quickly discover which amplitude is the correct one and create my equalization based on that."


Am I aiming to match the general volume of 500hz at 0db, with 7500hz at X db?

post #940 of 1139
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Originally Posted by Saraya View Post

Yes, I did install with VST plugin, though did not have the VST wrapper. Did I completely read over that part?


Also, I was slightly confused by this section :
"Once you have found the resonant peaks, it is possible to create a list that contains a reference frequencies (say 500hz and 1000hz) to compare to the resonant frequency at several different amplitudes. Here, take a look:

Here I am comparing 500 and 1000hz to different levels of 7500hz. Higher level numbers equal lower amplitudes (kind of counter intuitive, but whatever). By quickly switching back and forth between my reference frequencies and the resonant frequency I can quickly discover which amplitude is the correct one and create my equalization based on that."


Am I aiming to match the general volume of 500hz at 0db, with 7500hz at X db?

You should install this VST wrapper for foobar
http://www.yohng.com/software/foobarvst.html
and enable the Electri-Q VST plugin from within the wrapper from within foobar. If you somehow ran Electri-Q independently of foobar that's not right.

Yes, 7500Hz at X dB means 7500Hz sounds louder than 1000Hz by X dB.

Also, this may be obvious, but just in case: foobar2000 is a music player and Electri-Q an effects plugin that you load into the player in this case. The bit about balancing test tones is done using Sinegen, a whole different application found here:
http://sinegen.en.lo4d.com/
post #941 of 1139

Do not mind me!  I am having a little how to post confusion!!


Edited by bbmiller - 2/12/14 at 3:00pm
post #942 of 1139

How did you find this! I've been wasting an afternoon on this. Thank you!!!

post #943 of 1139

MusicBee can also use a Winamp VST wrapper (the latest has it natively supported)

 

I have been using it for years. Was thrilled to see it mentioned. When Elephant candy released EQu I was thrilled to have something similar for a smart device

 

 

Electri-Q with a spectrum analyzer running with Musicbee (it's a dual screen screeny)

 

Props to the OP. Excellent tutorial!!

post #944 of 1139

So I'm really looking hard for 1.7 electri q posihfopit (the last version).

 

anybody have any ideas? I googled it for a while. pms work too.

post #945 of 1139
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcazbarach View Post

So I'm really looking hard for 1.7 electri q posihfopit (the last version).

anybody have any ideas? I googled it for a while. pms work too.

Wow, I didn't know there's that many versions of posihfopit. All I ever had was v1.0

Here it is if you want it
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e1yw2w8ahuyf4v7/Electri-Q_%28posihfopit%29_Install.exe
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