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post #16 of 79
Personally, I don't think "It's digital for crying out loud!!" argument is good enough.
So I'll throw a few numbers and details below:

USB, when used in USB 2.0 standard can transfer up to 480 Mbps. That is approx 491,520 Kbps.

CD audio (Redbook Audio: which is uncompressed 16-bit PCM Audio sampled at 44.1 Khz) uses 1411 Kbps. That is 0.2% of the USB's cable capacity. Yes, one fifth of a percentage point from the USB's capacity..

As for the source, most modern computers can decode a whole song in under 15 seconds.

Most digital transmission up to the USB transfer stage will have checksums to detect any errors, and will be retransmitted if any of them found to ensure bit-perfect transfer.

You can do the math where a $500 USB cable will matter in this equation.
post #17 of 79
get the kimber then take off the ferrite beads. really open sound.
post #18 of 79


I usually sell them for $499, but since you are a fellow Head-Fi'er, I'll give a 50% discount!
post #19 of 79
Thread Starter 
amm so where can I find some 500$ worth USB cable ?
post #20 of 79
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amm so where can I find some 500$ worth USB cable ?
You could have a look at the axis or polestar usb cables here, if you really keen on spending that sort of money on a usb cable.

Another much cheaper option might be this one.
post #21 of 79
Thread Starter 
The Axis sure looks nice, how is it?
And I have seen there is the new Nucleus, why so high priced? anyone tried it?
post #22 of 79
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The Axis sure looks nice, how is it?
the axis is a very nice cable, very thick guage and sounds in a different league to mid-range or stock, and the proprietor is a really great guy to boot!

i also wonder about the ridgestreet audio usb cables (poiema RV3), i would like to try one oneday, just to have sampled it

i wish there wasnt so many high end usb's, as i want to try them all!
post #23 of 79
Hey quaddy, what kind of sonic differences do you notice between the different high end USB cables?
post #24 of 79
Thread Starter 
I wonder why a USB cable will cost like 1000$ and more ?!
post #25 of 79
those look sexy krmathis. Cant help but wondering how rotten the pricing is, though
post #26 of 79
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I wonder why a USB cable will cost like 1000$ and more ?!
do you also wonder the same about Stefan Audio Art voice recables?
post #27 of 79
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Hey quaddy, what kind of sonic differences do you notice between the different high end USB cables?
i always equate it to a standard analogue audio interconnect

i hear differences in those, and often the materials can inflect a certain signature upon the sound, the age old addage of copper being warm and silver more detailed is apt and true in my experience

this follows also in the digital realm, i never thought it would do, but i hear differences betweeen digital cables just as i do analogue cables, beit coax, toslink, usb, AES etc, each cable is individual within reason, certainly moreso if the cable has been designed with a mind to maximize quality and noise rejection, along the lines of the locus/ridgestreet products where they separate the voltage lines and add EMI material, the result is a cleaner, less veiled, more open sound than a standard or cheaper cable.

i dont argue that digital isnt digital, of course it is, the same in that analogue is analogue, sure.

whats in play here is materials which boils down to very basic, and factual chemisty between metals and capacitance/conductiveness which at a low level affects all things audible.

also the noise pollution in standard cables is higher than one that rejects near field interference, thus allowing a less affected audio stream, i use and thinkof usb cables as an analogue interconnect! i always have, for realtime streaming audio anyway, so i try and buy the best materials and good cable topography in that design, you arent so much as trying to produce something better or add on top of the source, but allow as much as the signal to come through unnafected by deleterious implementations, one which constantly amazes me in the shape of ferrite beads on usb cables that are intended as audio USB cables, kimber never ceases to amaze me on that front, its even advised against in the usb official specification/ratification, they are just a commercial manufacturer with no technical knowledge obviously.

the standard cryoparts cable is what i would call a smallish tweaked upgrade cable, in that there is a perceivable difference to stock, but only a small ammount (but worth it for that small percentage!?!)

the axis over and above the standard, is more noticeable, to me its like listening to an R'N'B black diamond interconnect over an ALO cro-x, both are good in their own ways, but the R'N'B managed to contain warmth and detail at the same time, the alo was only about detail, therefore the axis justifies its price over stock or standard in that it delivers detail, clarity and a smooth sound all at the same time

for those who flatly refuse to entertain a usb cable as an interconnect rather than a 1/0 transporter will always run into a problem with this argument, as its not solely about the ones and zeros, and therfore parts of the real argument and opinions will fall on deaf ears.

the key to this is realtime streaming audio, this isnt the same discipline as sending chunks of file data acrosss a usb cable.
post #28 of 79
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as its not solely about the ones and zeros, and therfore parts of the real argument and opinions will fall on deaf ears.
Waffle snipped. If you copy data to your USB HD is the data corrupt? No. Because each bit is accurate.

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realtime streaming audio
Ha ha. It's about the transfer of data. Whether it's text, pictures, music or videos, over USB, SATA, PATA it doesn't matter "Audiophile" cables don't make a jot of difference. If your computer blue screens in use, and you narrowed it down to a faulty cable, then that is what will happen if one of those cables did not transmit or receive data correctly.

Would you buy Audiophile CPU's and data bus lanes if they existed?
post #29 of 79
@Quaddy: Have you ever tried doing blind AB tests to verify your own impression of the cables?

@iriverdude: I'd suggest you pay a bit more respect to other people, if you want them to listen to you. No matter how 'right' you think you are, in absolute terms, there may be things you might be able to learn if you keep your mind open. Ignorance exist in many different forms, none of them beneficial.
post #30 of 79
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able to learn if you keep your mind open
My mind is open to analogue RCA cable differences, but not USB cables and will not soften it when I think someone is talking rubbish that one USB cable offers "better sound quality" than another.

If you really think USB cables make a difference are you going to replace all your RJ45 cables with 99.999999% OFC "Audiophile" LAN cables?
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