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post #31 of 42
3/11/09 at 2:43am
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Originally Posted by wuwhere View Post
LFF, they sound pretty pretty good, they're less digital sounding. Some audiophiles have converted their LP collection to digital using some really expensive turntable/arm/mc cartridge and ADC setup.
Most that I have seen floating around also use the EMU-0404USB. The trick with vinyl is that the ADC is really only one part of a long and complicated process. First, you have to find the right LP, clean it, remove static build up, adjust your TT, preamp, etc. That just to play it too!

I know a lot of audiophiles who have converted their LP collection to digital using some really expensive turntable/arm/mc cartridge and ADC setup as well. Some do a great job. Others...well...decent would be a kind word.
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post #32 of 42
3/23/09 at 8:52pm
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Originally Posted by Bohemianism View Post
My car was broken into the other night, and a whole bunch of my CD's were stolen. Most of them was newish music that doesn't raise many complecations when replacing.
But my Zeppelin CD's were stolen, and I don't know what to buy. Should I just go to the music store and replace them with what they have there? Or should I look at getting a box set or something like this Amazon.com: Definitive Collection Mini LP Replica: Led Zeppelin: Music

What will offer the best sound quality?

i love listening to Led on my Denon AH-D7000 plus Headroom Max amp. well, that's just me.

as for what to get back.

you already noted the mini-LP set which btw, you can get even cheaper here:
Music: Definitive Collection Mini LP Replica CD Boxset (Box Set) [11/4] by Led Zeppelin (Artist)

although, if you want the absolute best pressing of the CD version.
you'll have to pay more:
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about double + another $20 or so....

still, if you have some serious equipment to play 180g LPs and means to burn them onto CDs (meaning even more money), then you can get LPs from places like musicdirect.com

paul
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post #33 of 42
4/5/09 at 8:23pm
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Originally Posted by LFF View Post
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I know a lot of audiophiles who have converted their LP collection to digital using some really expensive turntable/arm/mc cartridge and ADC setup as well. Some do a great job. Others...well...decent would be a kind word.
well said.
this is why unless you're blessed with serious LP gear and the expertise to use it, one should let the pros make things for us.

again, the best way to play and listen to the great guitars in LZ 4 is this way!



these japanese SHM-CD are now easy to get at about $25 to $30 in various sites. one site even have the entire 12 SHM-CD collection for as low as $260.

the guitars are so 'there'. almost lile a demo special effects CD.

paul
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post #34 of 42
1/12/13 at 8:27pm

Hi LFF,

 

Please advise:

 

I am hard fun of Led Zeppelin but very very very upset with quality of their CDs.

I have their 10 CD box The Complete Studio Recordings Digitally Remastered by Jimmy Page.

3 questions:

1. What is the difference between Remastered and the ones you mentioned - Mastered?

2. What do you think about quality of 10 CDs box?

3. My friend bought recently LZ 2 that was remastered from the master tape. How to find this CD? Info on sites doesn't provide details if it is CD that have been remastered specificly from the master tape.

 

Thank you very much in advance.

 

JT

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post #35 of 42
1/23/13 at 10:35am
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Hi LFF,

 

Please advise:

 

I am hard fun of Led Zeppelin but very very very upset with quality of their CDs.

I have their 10 CD box The Complete Studio Recordings Digitally Remastered by Jimmy Page.

3 questions:

1. What is the difference between Remastered and the ones you mentioned - Mastered?

2. What do you think about quality of 10 CDs box?

3. My friend bought recently LZ 2 that was remastered from the master tape. How to find this CD? Info on sites doesn't provide details if it is CD that have been remastered specificly from the master tape.

 

Thank you very much in advance.

 

JT


1) The difference is that the remasters have a ton of compression and bad EQ as well as some noise reduction. ALL OF IT BAD!

2) They suck.

3) Also sucks. Getting it from the master tape is only part of the equation. You need to properly transfer it, properly master it and restore it and then, properly dither it and burn it for replication.

 

Get the first releases. They sound the best.

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post #36 of 42
1/23/13 at 1:57pm
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1) The difference is that the remasters have a ton of compression and bad EQ as well as some noise reduction. ALL OF IT BAD!

2) They suck.

3) Also sucks. Getting it from the master tape is only part of the equation. You need to properly transfer it, properly master it and restore it and then, properly dither it and burn it for replication.

 

Get the first releases. They sound the best.

 

Which are the first releases?

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post #37 of 42
1/23/13 at 4:05pm
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Originally Posted by wuwhere View Post

 

Which are the first releases?


Released around 1986 and most mastered by Barry Diament...

 

Led Zeppelin (SD 19126-2)

Led Zeppelin II (SD 19127-2)

Led Zeppelin III (SD 19128-2)

Led Zeppelin IV (SD 19129-2)

Houses Of The Holy (SD 19130-2)

Physical Graffiti (SS 200-2)

Presence (SS 8416-2)

The Song Remains The Same (SS 201-2)

In Through The Out Door (16002-2)

Coda (90051-2)

 

You can find them at most used CD stores for a couple of bucks each. Still the best sounding versions.

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post #38 of 42
1/23/13 at 4:08pm

x3 on the Barry Diaments! Buy them and immerse yourself in the bass! I'd like to hear the Japanese first pressings but I think they a very expensive these days?

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post #39 of 42
1/23/13 at 4:11pm
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x3 on the Barry Diaments! Buy them and immerse yourself in the bass! I'd like to hear the Japanese first pressings but I think they a very expensive these days?


They contain the same mastering.

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post #40 of 42
1/23/13 at 4:23pm

Those numbers are the same as the Japanese pressings. I would buy the used Made In Japan ones.

 

I got these from Keith Hirsch's website:

 

  • Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 20P2-2023, released in Japan, with obi strip)
  • Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 19126-2)
  • Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin (U.S., Atlantic, catalog number 19126-2, early DADC plant pressing, “Made in USA – Digital Audio Disc Corp.” stamped on clear plastic ring at center of disc, matrix code is “DIDX 798 11A4″)
  • Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin II (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 32XD-565, released in Japan, with obi strip)
  • Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin II (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 20P2-2024, released in Japan)
  • Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin II (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 19127-2)
  • Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin III (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 20P2-2025, released in Japan, with obi strip)
  • Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin III (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number SD 19128-2)
  • Led Zeppelin “IV” (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 32XD-335, released in Japan)
  • Led Zeppelin “IV” (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 20P2-2026, released in Japan, Warner-Pioneer Corporation record label shown on spines)
  • Led Zeppelin “IV” (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 20P2-2026, released in Japan, East West Japan record label shown on spines)
  • Led Zeppelin “IV” (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 19129-2)
  • Led Zeppelin Houses of the Holy (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 32XD-154, released in Japan, with obi strip)
  • Led Zeppelin Houses of the Holy (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 20P2-2027, released in Japan, with obi strip)
  • Led Zeppelin Houses of the Holy (Japan, Atlantic, catalog number 19130-2)
  • Led Zeppelin Houses of the Holy (West Germany, Atlantic, catalog number A2-19130, early Columbia House issue)
  • Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti (Japan, Swan Song, catalog number 55XD-661/2, two-disc set, released in Japan, with obi strip, rare first version that does not have cough segment at the end of “In My Time of Dying”)
  • Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti (Japan, Swan Song, catalog number SS 200-2, two-disc set, rare first version that does not have cough segment at the end of “In My Time of Dying”)
  • Led Zeppelin Presence (Japan, Swan Song, catalog number 20P2-2028, released in Japan)
  • Led Zeppelin Presence (West Germany, Swan Song, catalog number SS 8416-2)
  • Led Zeppelin The Soundtrack from the Film The Song Remains the Same (Japan, Swan Song, catalog number 55XD-568/9, two-disc set, released in Japan, with obi strip)
  • Led Zeppelin The Soundtrack from the Film The Song Remains the Same (Japan, Swan Song, catalog number SS 201-2, two-disc set)
  • Led Zeppelin In Through the Out Door (West Germany, Swan Song, catalog number 16002-2)
  • Led Zeppelin Coda (Japan, Swan Song, catalog number 20P2-2030, released in Japan)

Edited by wuwhere - 1/23/13 at 4:42pm
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post #41 of 42
1/23/13 at 4:34pm

Forget the UK or US boxed sets or albums, get the Japanese releases.

 

KP

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post #42 of 42
3/14/13 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by yeahx View Post

It's great. The box opens from the top with a little ribbon tab sticking out. There are hardbound books containing 2 albums each and their original artwork. You just flip it over to see the other one right side up. Except for Physical Graffiti because its 2 disc so it has it's own. There are 4 bonus tracks at the end of Coda. And there is a nice booklet with pictures and some info that I haven't read yet. I just got mine for Valentines day and I almost wanted to take it back because I own a few already, but then I could only find a few so it seemed like a good idea to keep it.


I forgot to mention this is "The Complete Studio Recordings" box that I have and it contains the 90's remasters.

Best box set ever from the best band ever!
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