The "truth" about different speaker cables - Page 20

Wait a sec, sorry, I'm repeating the question to clarify and confirm, for anyone to answer.  I hope I've made the meaning clear.

At the moment I'm not talking about the cables that connect equipment together, like those terminated in a TRS, RCA, or BNC connector.  Do you also replace any of the wire, cables, or traces inside your equipment (e.g. inside the box housing the amp)?  If so, which ones, and with what?

And yet the properties of the different metals are very clear
 

• Silver is very silvery, it makes the trebles more sparkling.
• Copper is reddish, it makes the sound warmer and rounder.
• Rhodium is silvery-white and hard, it makes the sound more structured, articulate.
• ...

Easy, right?

It is not that easy. Each metal is completely different. Check it out on a periodic table. http://www.ptable.com/ . Each metal has it strengths as well as weakness when it comes to sound. I do have a Copper IC, SPC IC, and a Silver IC. Can tell the difference between all of them. Not too hard on my rig.

Sometimes you just need your ears? Especially when more often than not they are going on your rig?

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik 

That's anthropomorphizing the metals. It's never been demonstrated that one performs differently than others with audio signals. I've put a few on the 'scope and you do not see a difference in frequency response.

no research paper contending to prove or disprove the value of fancy wires has been accepted by the leading industry publication, The Journal of the Audio Engineering Society.

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Originally Posted by BIG POPPA 

Sometimes you just need your ears? Especially when more often than not they are going on your rig?

Would you be so kind as to describe the sonic differences between different cable materials, (leaving aside connectors) in terms of frequency characteristics, noise levels and timing issues as I can accurately measure all these characteristics in a system in use (not just scopes) to within a few ps or a few 1000ths of a db across a 20 - 20K range, and have done so for Silver, SPC, Stranded copper and Solid copper. We can compare these findings, I can also provide music samples created using very different types of cables, it should be trivial for you to tell these apart as some cables were unshielded 77c monoprice jobbies and others well made shielded solid copper or silver, thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by nick_charles 

Would you be so kind as to describe the sonic differences between different cable materials, (leaving aside connectors) in terms of frequency characteristics, noise levels and timing issues as I can accurately measure all these characteristics in a system in use (not just scopes) to within a few ps or a few 1000ths of a db across a 20 - 20K range, and have done so for Silver, SPC, Stranded copper and Solid copper. We can compare these findings, I can also provide music samples created using very different types of cables, it should be trivial for you to tell these apart as some cables were unshielded 77c monoprice jobbies and others well made shielded solid copper or silver, thanks in advance.

 

That's cruel, Nick. Just downright cruel.

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Didn't anyone catch the sarcasm? I even added the smileys :)
 

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Originally Posted by khaos974 

And yet the properties of the different metals are very clear
 

• Silver is very silvery, it makes the trebles more sparkling.
• Copper is reddish, it makes the sound warmer and rounder.
• Rhodium is silvery-white and hard, it makes the sound more structured, articulate.
• ...

 

Easy, right?

Now Nick, why would I do your homework for you? There are no short cuts in this hobby, just many paths. Spending 100's and 100's of hours listening to different cables on the same rig. Have done my time. Still audition cables to keep my opinions on point.

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Originally Posted by khaos974 

Didn't anyone catch the sarcasm? I even added the smileys :)
 

I knew your intent was to be sarcastic. But in a sense, it wasn't really sarcasm as those very same metaphyiscal "properties" are ascribed by those who aren't intending to be sarcastic.

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Originally Posted by Bullseye 

BTW, Steve Eddy, didn't recognize you with that name, older Koyaan 

Hey BS!

Yeah, it's me. Since I'm Steve Eddy everywhere else, I figured it was time to ditch my old moniker here on HeadFi.

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Originally Posted by BIG POPPA 

Sometimes you just need your ears? Especially when more often than not they are going on your rig?

It's that thing they're attached to that you need to watch out for. It has a mind of its own and can't be trusted.

Audio equipment works using electromagnets, the only way a cable can screw you up is if it breaks, or is really crappy. There is no way to increase the speed at which electricity flows, and so long as you have a constant connection, the only question is resistance which affects volume.