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post #1 of 84
2/26/09 at 10:13pm
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Words cannot explain it..

Things you put ontop of speaker. Maybe not so mass-loading?



Speaker cable risers (those small white things) I think £250-£400 each.



I can totally understand getting quality gear, but it's taking the mick when it goes this far

Russ Andrews £3500 mains cable (check RA site)

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Nordost Valhalla Reference Speaker Cable
£10,000 for 6M pair



KIMBER Select KS-3038 speaker cable
£15,000



I feel pity for the people that buy these and have been conned by there dealers, rather than spending that sort of money on cabling it should be spent on room acoustic treatment, better gear or movies/music.
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post #2 of 84
2/26/09 at 10:15pm
watch out! patrick82 is coming to get you!
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post #3 of 84
2/26/09 at 10:29pm
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hmm will a mod delete this thread? Looking at that room it'll sound horrible. Why do some Audiophiles do this, spend thousands on useless trinkets ignoring the fact their room is shaped in the worst possible way (ie a square is worst?) and also place in a conservatory?

Found out prices for those wooden roundals £130 for set of three.. so $260 for a set of speakers, plus it appears you place on each component

http://www.audiofreaks.co.uk/archive/may_page3.html

Or you could just make your own with a core drill bit.
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post #4 of 84
2/26/09 at 10:42pm
They're not worth arguing about. Tweaks are an article of faith.

Believers get precisely what they deserve.
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post #5 of 84
2/27/09 at 8:41pm
Those Oreo cookie sized things are Shun Mook Mpingo discs which are made of ebony. Supposedly, you can "expand the size of the soundstage" by turning the indicator mark on them them outward. They were $50 a peice and I'm ashamed to admit it, but I have them. That is the only tweak that I bought that was pure crap!!
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post #6 of 84
2/27/09 at 8:50pm
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you can "expand the size of the soundstage" by turning the indicator mark on them them outward.
oh my...it gets even better. I wonder what makes it soundstage better, perhaps the special paint used for the arrow mark does something magical to the sound waves...
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post #7 of 84
2/27/09 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by tke398 View Post
Those Oreo cookie sized things are Shun Mook Mpingo discs which are made of ebony. Supposedly, you can "expand the size of the soundstage" by turning the indicator mark on them them outward. They were $50 a peice and I'm ashamed to admit it, but I have them. That is the only tweak that I bought that was pure crap!!
HAHAHAHAHAAHH are you serious?
Jesus I'm in the wrong business, I should start selling wingnuts that add extra speed to G5s.

I fail to see how a piece of wood, ontop of a speaker, will in any way shape or form change the sound coming FROM the speaker.
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post #8 of 84
2/27/09 at 9:09pm
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^Probably worse as that block of wood will be jumping up and down. Unless you blu-tack it down. And even then it's...unbelievable they have the cheek to sell it. A granite ontop of a speaker is probably a tweak worth trying.
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post #9 of 84
2/27/09 at 9:19pm
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hmm will a mod delete this thread?
No need for that. I'm sure it will die its own death from natural causes. Most likely boredom.
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post #10 of 84
2/27/09 at 9:27pm
They're supposed to vibrate and "let the natural harmonic flow of ebony harmonics and resonance blah, blah, blah". Ok, I'm done.
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post #11 of 84
2/27/09 at 10:02pm
The use of this type of things are quite common in Asia. They do have affect but not because they are special or anything, it is just that your equiments are vibrating badly from loud music and some weight/ or cone will reduce the vibration to the equiments making it more stable while playing. The "magic" bit are just some BS sale pitch to con people....with patient one can probably find ways to minimise vibration at next to no cost.

To have the need to buy £10K+ speaker cables etc, the price of the equiments must be pretty scary lol....
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post #12 of 84
2/28/09 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by tke398 View Post
Those Oreo cookie sized things are Shun Mook Mpingo discs which are made of ebony. Supposedly, you can "expand the size of the soundstage" by turning the indicator mark on them them outward. They were $50 a peice and I'm ashamed to admit it, but I have them. That is the only tweak that I bought that was pure crap!!
Bags of lead shot on the tops of your speakers would have been more effective, and far cheaper, and I don't consider lead shot to be cheap.

Laz
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post #13 of 84
3/1/09 at 2:55pm
£15,000 for speaker cable. There must be some suckers out there with bottomless pockets for anyone even to have the nerve to sell cable at this price. How do these companies get away without being sued? Whenever I mention audiophile cable prices to my professional audio friends they always just start laughing!

G
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post #14 of 84
3/1/09 at 3:02pm
The people who buy cables like this will probably have systems that cost more than a Farrari.... so price of cables doesn't sound quite as bad if you compare it in relation to the systems....

Should check out Bob Ludwig of Gateway Mastering Studios and the equiments and cables he uses.
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post #15 of 84
3/1/09 at 4:32pm
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The people who buy cables like this will probably have systems that cost more than a Farrari.... so price of cables doesn't sound quite as bad if you compare it in relation to the systems....

Should check out Bob Ludwig of Gateway Mastering Studios and the equiments and cables he uses.
Bob L is a legend in the business. And sure, if a cable company wanted to give me $50,000 of free cable to advertise their product what am I going to say, it's crap? I'm sure it's very good cable but so is a lot of other much cheaper cable. Don't forget, in a studio the cabling and routing is usually very serious. Running signals for many 10 of meters in a studio with big power supplies all over the place is way more demanding than running a couple of meters or so in your home. Even so .... I've spent about 2 Ferraris worth on my studio and would rather buy a solid gold kettle than some of these ridiculous cables. The coffee just tastes so much better from a gold kettle, it's not even close, the difference is like night and day, you can't be serious about coffee if you don't have a solid gold kettle.

G
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