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Yes ... FTW = "For the Win" ...



Keep up the fun banter, ya'll ...

All this dirty talk and rough play has gotten me hot and bothered, so I just wanted to let everyone know that Gladys (my Grado GS-1000) and I are still together. We took it slow. I put my hand on her shiny mahogany . . . chamber and she started nibbling my ear. As I sat back and took in The Heart of Africa, all those bitter memories began to fade. As Gladys whispered sweet nothings into my ear(s) (Beatles, Let It Be, 1:06, right after "Though they may be parted"), all that shrillness began to be replaced by warm, well-balanced, sonic ambrosia. Even Journey sounded pretty good! As we made sweet music together, I lost all track of time and space. I knew then that nobody but Grado could give me such a woodie!

But as all men are pigs, I can't say I won't fall off the wagon. There's a little Gary Hart running through all of us. One day, you're playing with your Grado mod (in the privacy of your own home). The next thing you know, they've got pictures of you and Donna Rice getting comfy aboard the Monkey Business. (Deep Sea fishing, anyone?) Old Anakin Skywalker swore he had only one heart (of the non-mechanical kind) and it was for Padme. But even as he took her lovely soft hand (the one that didn't feel like sand) in that right hand of his (the one that looked like a saxophone), it was obvious that he'd be wearing metal before it was all over.

You just never know. You swear you'll be faithful till the end of time. Then, like Meatloaf before the breakdown, you find yourself "praying for the end of time." You say you love her, that you can't imagine ever spending time with anyone else. But the history of musical bliss is covered with the rotting corpses of seeming romantics who were just holding out for the next great thing. Like Clinton on an intern, you can find yourself so distracted you won't know what is is.

So don't light that victory cigar just yet, especially if you don't know where it's been. We're all just one credit transaction away from metal. That's right Tony Stark. I am Iron Man. We need to find a group.

"My name is Bill . . . and I'm a Gradohead."

"Hi, Bill."

So much pretty english and nice anekdotes, I'm still dissapointed by you not commenting on my post.

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I think that was his way of letting sleeping dogs lie and not perpetuating the rants going on. I commend him on that. Let's just all agree to be amicable and move on. I hate cleaning up threads and this thread is on the verge of a purge.

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AMEN, Brotha!

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I'm getting sick of being judged as a group, how about reading MY posts, and judging me by MY posts!? I think I was rather polite and deserve an answer? If not, then atleast give a good explanation, including what I said what was so wrong??

I'v put alot of time in my replies (especially that last one...), I'v come to expect more from head-fi.

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Do pardon but I think the proof is in the pudding, as they say ...

The only somewhat hateful, injured and otherwise tone has come from you my friend ...

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That's just venomous ... and it's certainly indication of issues of a sort.

Not that I don't have my own ... not preaching or anything ... but maybe you should decompress?

[smooch!]

I wish you the best!

Well thats just misjudgement, probably again because english isn't my first language, but that wasn't meant sarcastic, I can assure you I don't have issues (talking about venomous, what was that saying about that kettle?). Any other examples btw?

-You guys keep saying this stuff. One makes the assumption. The other says, "Ooh, that's right." And now I've got you telling me which headphones I've never listened to.
-Is this supposed to be some kind of scandal
-Am I supposed to run away in shame
-You and your little friends keep chiming in
-Don't just sit there in la-la land, parroting the same chickenheaded babble
-I can't believe the kind of witch hunt
-But if you and your little friends want to run me off for blaspheming the golden Grado, get a life.

now thats what I would call sarcastic and offending...

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Goodness, it seems that you just want to continue with the arguing. You need to re-read post #814.

Arguing is whats this forum is for, discussion. If he is not going to answer to my arguments for his statements, atleast tell it to me. I'm starting to think you guys are just out there to judge, instead of to talk about headphones? If you throw **** to my head, am I allowed to defend myself, or do you want me to stay still and act like nothing has happened, you guys seriously don't read my posts, or interpret them as I mean them.

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That would be my guess.

read.... my... posts.... before.... judging.... me....

ok is that clear for everybody?

Save it for the next life. We've said enough. Grado has new cans. They're a substantial break from the dominance of the woodies, though they hearken back to Grado's metallic wunderkin: the PS1 and the HP1000. They're also $750 more than the GS-1000, which had previously been the most expensive item on Grado's in-production menu. Zanth weighed in on the cans, saying they're the best he's ever heard. I shared my skepticisms. This drew stinging shots from at least one not-so-subtle poster. Others rallied my point. What survived of this postal moment was a floating nuclear option called, "You've never heard the PS-1!!!!!" Before I had a chance to address the point, a few other pitched in with, "Yeah, he's never even heard the PS-1!!!!!"

Torches were lit. Pitchforks were borrowed. A dedicated few went over their zombie lines, "Argghhhh!!! Argghhhh!!!" Others laughed back. We all had some fun at each other's expense. I think I got credit for using the word, "Phallus." A good time was had by all. And in the end, what remains is the enduring mystery, "Has he or has he not heard the PS-1?" After all, with current prices, I might not have the coin to make such a purchase, but I might know somebody who has. I might have been at his or her home. With doors locked and shades drawn, I might have donned the holy vessels of the Lord and listened to Barry Manilow and Judas Priest: Judas Manilow. I might have formed an opinion of the PS-1, even if somebody else had the box under their bed.

Or I could be making all this up. You never know.

What remains a mystery, at least to me, is how the "PS-1 virgin" accusation became relevant in the first place. As far as I can tell, it's just an un-subtle bit of misdirection. We're talking about whether the PS-1 - which almost everybody hasn't yet heard - represents a serious innovation, compelling the purchase of a new headphone, and at a price almost double the GS-1000. Zanth says so, and he at least has heard one. My comments were nothing more than the concerns, shared by many, hoping that - in this time of financial hardship - we weren't getting sold a headphone we didn't need.

Most people get my point. That doesn't mean they're never going to buy a PS-1000. It simply means that I'm echoing concerns held by a lot of people for whom two grand is still a useful wad of cash, a sum whose disappearance would be noticed in a lot of homes. I took the "Do we need this?" argument; you argued that the PS-1000 isn't just a cosmetic offering, that it represents some important upgrades. While I question how big a difference it'll make if the inner cup is mahogany and the outer cup is aluminum, or the real cost of a few feet of "8 conductor" wire, Zanth says this set of cans is clearly the pick of the litter.

And still this raises the inevitable cry, "Yes, but have you ever heard the PS-1?" Honestly, I'm at a loss for how it matters. We're not talking about the PS-1, except that the GS-1000's initial enthusiasm later gave way to complaints that it was too refined, and that it strayed too far from the Grado sound. It saw a strong interest in the HP-1 and the PS-1. Not surprisingly, John Grado thought it was the perfect time to roll out a new line of products culminating in a can that looks like a metallic version of the GS-1000, but hearkens back to the PS-1 and HP-1000.

Forget the fact that Zanth, himself, said as much:

"Never one to stop innovating, Grado has set out to create a new flagship and it is these new headphones, the PS1000's, as I hear it, are the very best headphone Grado Labs has ever produced. What would so excite me as to claim such a thing? How about a hybrid metal/wooden headphone that incorporates the tone and timbre of the RS1's, maintaining the superior Grado mid-range, the hallmark of their sound and a resonance reduced decay which brings the sound closer to that of the PS1's and HP-1000's?"

But the argument ended up stuck on whether I, personally, had ever heard the PS-1, followed by the unsubtle attack that I hadn't and if I hadn't then my point didn't count. But even Zanth, whose review of the PS-1000 is featured at the Grado Labs website, tempered his generous praise of the product with a comment reflecting the frustration and skepticism multiple product upgrades and replacements might generate:

"The PS1000's are finally, (and for those that upgrade often or think the grass is always greener, they know what I mean by finally)."

But the argument is becoming a one-note wonder, with snits about fancy language and the finger-in-the-chest question, "Yes, but have you heard the PS-1? Admit it. You have not. If you haven't listened to the PS-1, you have no business having an opinion about the GS-1000, let alone the PS-1000.

And yet, for the life of me, I can't see the connection between our argument about the PS-1000 and whether or not I've listened to the PS-1. I think we both can find better uses for our time.

Before quoting I would like to say, YES a nice post, finally, THANK YOU!!!

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I applaud you for a nice full reply without any offenses, I hope we can argue this way further. However I do find it essential if you have heard the PS1 or not, just because it's such a big part of why the PS1000 would be special or not.

Hope you understand, even though my lack of english language, I won't ask you to reply in Dutch, Fremch, German or Spanish,

Cheers,

Victor

Zanth:

You wrote a great review of the PS-1000, one that actually has even a guy like me thinking twice about whether Grado has "done it again."

If enough people come back with similar raves about these cans, I'll probably find a way to bring them home.

Until then, I feel I got two solid benefits from this forum - despite a few scenes out of Grand Theft Auto.

First, I got to meet a lot of really wonderful people, people who rallied me and gave me food for thought.

Second, I gained a better appreciation for my GS-1000s. Somewhere in this conversation, somebody said something that made me look at those cans in a new light. I found myself hearing the presentation from a different angle. And while I'd never thought of this as including some measure of psychoacoustics, the discussion raised an awareness within me that caused me to hear my cans in a new way.

I also enjoyed the talk about the virtues of the SDS. The next time I rob a bank, I've got to pick one of those up.