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post #1231 of 3799
Awesome!

Looks great and sounds like it sounds even better.

Give yourself a treat one day and pick up a pair of Tung Sol 7236 tubes (if you can find them).
post #1232 of 3799

I preferred Sylvania to Tung Sol 7236 because I found the TS 7236 too warm and thick, i preferred the slightly more SS like sylvania 7236, but i would still take tung sol 5998 over both of them any day. ts 7236 is a great tube though.

post #1233 of 3799
That's the beauty of tube rolling. Each can season the music to their own taste.

In this context there is no good or bad, no right or wrong, just "I like", "I don't like" or "I prefer".
Edited by MoatsArt - 5/24/14 at 9:30pm
post #1234 of 3799

Has anyone had a chance to compare the Sylvania 7236 and the Sylvania Gold Brand 6080? The 6080/6AS7 review in the BottleHead forum

 

http://the-key.enix.org/~krystal/review-tube-bottlehead.html

 

suggests they might be same. I don't have either of these and so I wonder if anyone has had a chance to closely compare the construction? And I wonder if they have the same sound?

 

And of course, the real question, as the 6080's tend to be less expensive, should I get a pair? Or should I go for the 7236's?

post #1235 of 3799
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Originally Posted by gibosi View Post
 

Has anyone had a chance to compare the Sylvania 7236 and the Sylvania Gold Brand 6080? The 6080/6AS7 review in the BottleHead forum

 

http://the-key.enix.org/~krystal/review-tube-bottlehead.html

 

suggests they might be same. I don't have either of these and so I wonder if anyone has had a chance to closely compare the construction? And I wonder if they have the same sound?

 

And of course, the real question, as the 6080's tend to be less expensive, should I get a pair? Or should I go for the 7236's?

I've not heard a 6080 that I like.  They are cheap enough to experiment with, but there are much better tubes out there for a dollar more.  Even the GE 6AS7GA is a nice tube for $8.

post #1236 of 3799
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Originally Posted by gibosi View Post
 

Has anyone had a chance to compare the Sylvania 7236 and the Sylvania Gold Brand 6080? The 6080/6AS7 review in the BottleHead forum

 

http://the-key.enix.org/~krystal/review-tube-bottlehead.html

 

suggests they might be same. I don't have either of these and so I wonder if anyone has had a chance to closely compare the construction? And I wonder if they have the same sound?

 

And of course, the real question, as the 6080's tend to be less expensive, should I get a pair? Or should I go for the 7236's?

 

not the same at all, the 7236 has more gain than the 6080.

 

 

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Originally Posted by hodgjy View Post
 

I've not heard a 6080 that I like.  They are cheap enough to experiment with, but there are much better tubes out there for a dollar more.  Even the GE 6AS7GA is a nice tube for $8.

 

same, until i came across the GEC 6080...

post #1237 of 3799

Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, a pair of GEC 6080 would seem to be more than I can afford at the moment, but will definitely keep an eye out for a good deal on the Syl and/or TS 7236.

post #1238 of 3799

Just to echo that 7236 and 6080 are def. not the same and like others, there's only one 6080 that I really like and that's the 6080WB graphite.  All the rest (and I've a cupboard full of them) are 'ok' but nothing special though the GEC one is indeed one rung up.  Trouble with the 7236 is that it's not very easy to find although prices are still palatable and it's a good deal, bang for buck.  I got mine at vacuum tubes.net at 36 USD/piece.  Good transaction and recommended if you're in the states.  

 

If they have to ship to Europe beware:  they use USPS which means that on the receiving end your national postal service will handle clearance and those crooks ate me alive on charges and taxes.   Their handling fee alone was 45 USD.....  Never again, courier all the way for me.

post #1239 of 3799
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post

 

If they have to ship to Europe beware:  they use USPS which means that on the receiving end your national postal service will handle clearance and those crooks ate me alive on charges and taxes.   Their handling fee alone was 45 USD.....  Never again, courier all the way for me.

 

Europe is not a single country. I'd be much happier dealing with the post office rather than the greedy couriers here.

post #1240 of 3799
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Europe is not a single country. I'd be much happier dealing with the post office rather than the greedy couriers here.

Same here post office over courier always  everytime a courier was involved ment big bucks .its like on Ebay and  there shipping program never paid import fees when buying in U.S. before  but them they ask for duty WHAT A SCAM .I never buy from those seller who use the shipping program . 

post #1241 of 3799
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Originally Posted by MIKELAP View Post

Same here post office over courier always  everytime a courier was involved ment big bucks .its like on Ebay and  there shipping program never paid import fees when buying in U.S. before  but them they ask for duty WHAT A SCAM .I never buy from those seller who use the shipping program . 
Well..no matter what i choose i pay big bucks always when the total amount (incl postage) goes over around 80usd when i order from out of europe..form then on i almost pay 33% in taxes and customcosts over the amount! Customs here in the netherlands are thieves..i still cant believe how much i paid extra for my new amp that came from canada when it arrived at my doorstep! I still have nightmares about it..hehehehe as i rather would spend that amount on a good cause or something! At least i would have a good feeling about it then! What a robbery!!
But i understand not all customs work same way..some are nicer and some a just scumbag thieves and even 'LOOSE' stuff sometimes (southern europe).. But northern europe have the nicest custom regulations i understand if u get stuff from oversees wink.gif but here.. Sometimes i dont even bother..as with the extra costs its even more costier sometimes. redface.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 5/26/14 at 5:22pm
post #1242 of 3799
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Well..no matter what i choose i pay big bucks always when the total amount (incl postage) goes over around 80usd when i order from out of europe..form then on i almost pay 33% in taxes and customcosts over the amount! Customs here in the netherlands are thieves..i still cant believe how much i paid extra for my new amp that came from canada when it arrived at my doorstep! I still have nightmares about it..hehehehe as i rather would spend that amount on a good cause or something! At least i would have a good feeling about it then! What a robbery!!
But i understand not all customs work same way..some are nicer and some a just scumbag thieves and even 'LOOSE' stuff sometimes (southern europe).. But northern europe have the nicest custom regulations i understand if u get stuff from oversees wink.gif but here.. Sometimes i dont even bother..as with the extra costs its even more costier sometimes. redface.gif

Ya we never get a break .

post #1243 of 3799

You pay the same amount of customs duty all over Europe, that's why it's called a customs union.  Typically those rates are not extremely high, between about 4-12%.  Then comes VAT (=to US sales tax), which differs per country but is between 15 and 25% on the items we order.  Together this 'll put you a bit over 30% or my rule of thumb:  take the sales price of the item in the US but substitute USD with EUR and you'll be in the ballpark.

 

Of course, the courier files the customs declaration on your behalf and asks a fee.  Fair enough.  You can select between couriers, some are cheaper than others.  Typically it'll cost between 12 and 20 EUR.  Unless (in Belgium) if it's sent via mail, then Belgian post processes it.  

 

Trouble is, they're no longer public but are  a private, listed entity nowadays but still retain the monopoly on international packages sent via other postal services...and boy,  do the bast*rds exploit it....>30 EUR administrative fee.  And you don't have a choice as competition can't play.  Time for a letter to the European Commission I guess.  Anyway, when shipping to Belgium anything's better than post.

post #1244 of 3799
In the US there is no incoming sales tax for private sales from overseas and duty is charged only on items over $1,000.
post #1245 of 3799
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Originally Posted by MIKELAP View Post
 

Same here post office over courier always  everytime a courier was involved ment big bucks .its like on Ebay and  there shipping program never paid import fees when buying in U.S. before  but them they ask for duty WHAT A SCAM .I never buy from those seller who use the shipping program . 

 

I could not agree more, I would never buy from a seller who uses the Shipping Program either.

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