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post #76 of 141
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Originally Posted by s1m0 View Post
IMO it takes some time to get accustomed to a new sound signature. When I got my altec lansing im716 I thought they were terrible compared to my old sonys ex71s. So maybe the OP should listen to the Apple IEM some more before returning them.
Thanks for a sensible useful reply unlike the replies i've been getting from those two and some other posters.

Yeah you have a point there. I remember about 7 years ago I bought a pair of Sony EX in ear phones and at first I didn't like the sound of them until I wore them out and they sounded better.

I cannot understand the hostile replies I have been getting here and another guy being totally rude. The reason I used Apple Fanboy is because I thought maybe they were part of the cult where if someone says something bad about Apple products then they get all defensive and exchange abuse. I myself love Apple products as I own a MacBook Pro, MacBook, iMac and iPod Touch but I wouldn't get all defensive and abusive back if someone mention in their opinion that they weren't that great. Maybe the posters here a bit too touchy aswell because I used words like horrible and duped but I didn't mean it to that extreme.


Art
post #77 of 141
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Originally Posted by Artmuzz View Post
but I wouldn't get all defensive and abusive back if someone mention in their opinion that they weren't that great.
Maybe the posters here a bit too touchy aswell because I used words like horrible and duped but I didn't mean it to that extreme. Art
Art, you did nothing at all to justify the spiteful remarks against you. So you didn't 'qualify' your adjectives properly... ... big deal. There was no need for this personal attack on you, and no need for other people to take delight in the bullying and to come and join in. It makes Head-Fi look like a horrible place to be, but it really isn't. The bullies who side together to attack another person are in the minority thank goodness, and there are plenty of genuinely nice and friendly people here. I hope you stick around for a while and get to see that for yourself, and bring plenty of money, you're going to need it

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Originally Posted by Zalithian View Post
He didn't just give him opinion. He said x is better than y. That is not an opinion. That is a fact.
Now, had he said he preferred x over y, or x suited his tastes more so than y then it's fine.
You've been here for one month, and you're calling people 'dicks' (in an earlier post), and telling them how to word their posts?? Is that what you're here for? To join in with the select group of bullies who think it's perfectly acceptable to launch into a personal attack on an innocent Head-Fi member for 'improperly' qualifying his comments????

FIRST: When someone says 'x' is better than 'y' on Head-Fi... it is generally assumed by the majority of people that this is a personal opinion. If I say my Sony TV 'x', is much better than my friend's more expensive Samsung TV 'y' - it is clear from my comment that I prefer my Sony TV. It is not clear from my comment that I am stating my TV has been scientifically proven to be better than the Samsung TV is it??? Am I in a lab carrying out tests?? No! I do not need to qualify my opinion because it is obvious what I mean. You're just splitting hairs for the sake of it.

SECOND: No one has appointed you or anyone else here, the position of presiding over other members and dictating how they should qualify their opinions to meet with yours or anyone else's personal preferences.

THIRD: Sexism is not supposed to be tolerated here. Your comment that I defended the OP because of 'motherly' instincts is rude and chauvinistic. You imply only females feel the need to defend someone who is being attacked. But there are plenty of nice regular guys on this forum who also defend other people against the growing group of bullies residing here on Head-Fi. Your inference that only females 'defend' is insulting to the majority of your own gender.

To the people in this thread who felt it was 'okay' to sneer at the OP by telling him condescendingly: "If you like CX300, you won't like 95% of the IEM's we discuss" or "Also, to many people, liking CX300 is not the best way to show that you have good taste in headphones... ", you should be ashamed of yourselves. The remarks were clearly meant to be personal, and intended to make the OP feel bad about his choices.

Jonathan, you said: "might I quietly chime in to say that I never claimed that Art had bad taste in headphones" - but this... "Also, to many people, liking CX300 is not the best way to show that you have good taste in headphones... " is a previous comment of yours! Do you still maintain you didn't at least imply he had bad taste in headphones by your condescending remark towards him?

The snobbery on this place is laughable. But those horrible digs and snipes at an innocent person are not laughable and shouldn't be allowed to stand.
post #78 of 141
well its like saying he like dairy milk over some bolivian 90% coco solids hand produced chocolate.

one may be "better" than the other, but you like what you like and i think there is nothing wrong with the cx300. when i first moved from ibuds to the cx300 i thought they were just amazing, i couldnt believe that for £25 there could be such an amazing difference. how did i not know of this before?!?!?!?!?!?

when i almost upgraded to the se210 from the cx300 i loved that clarity but just couldnt handle the lack of bass and the reason for the upgrade was becasue i couldnt take the bloated bass of the cx300 any more.

"THIRD: Sexism is not supposed to be tolerated here. Your comment that I defended the OP because of 'motherly' instincts is rude and chauvinistic. You imply only females feel the need to defend someone who is being attacked. But there are plenty of nice regular guys on this forum who also defend other people against the growing group of bullies residing here on Head-Fi. Your inference that only females 'defend' is insulting to the majority of your own gender."

well said soozieq, now back in the kitchen and bake us some cookies, theres a good girl
post #79 of 141
anybody need me to defend them????


post #80 of 141
Y'all should just take a chill pill. It's just headphones, not the end of the world.
post #81 of 141
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
well said soozieq, now back in the kitchen and bake us some cookies, theres a good girl
Ha ha. I get guys to bake the cookies, I just eat them, the cookies I mean, what did you think I meant????

As for the CX300, I have a really good friend who's had his since they were first released, think he paid almost £50 for them - and he's still loving them today, despite having tried a few others, he always goes back to his beloved CX300.

Each to his own opinion, right? Okay, have you started the dinner yet??
post #82 of 141
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post

well said soozieq, now back in the kitchen and bake us some cookies, theres a good girl
OH NO!

lol You might be the guy in Lucy's pic.
post #83 of 141
of course, dinner is all set to go and actually feeling a bit guilty for not having baked this week, current fav has been a large bakewell tart but trying things other than cherry.

lemon works exceedingly well but blood orange not so much.
post #84 of 141
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Originally Posted by GreatDane View Post
OH NO!

lol You might be the guy in Lucy's pic.
I might be a little momma but I can kick!


post #85 of 141
Meh. No one's paying attention, it seems.

Yes, sooz, I maintain my position. I've explained this twice already. Here it is, broken down:
1. Most people (here) have a low opinion of CX300. It is not even considered the best in its price range. NB: This does not mean that CX300s are bad, just unpopular.
2. Odds are, new members will share the opinion of the majority. It's just simple statistics. If I've not tasted Flavour X Ice Cream, but I know that 80% of Ice Cream-Fi members dislike Flavour X relative to other flavours (both cheaper and more expensive), I'll probably not like X either. I might like X, but I probably won't.
3. So, rave reviews of CX300, especially relative to ADDIEM which most people here favour over CX300, are less useful (NB: not less valid) than reviews to the contrary.

In my opinion, this entails:
1. Minority opinions – because they are less useful (but not less valid) – should be stated humbly, and with qualification.
2. If they are not, strongly stated opinions to the contrary should be expected. It's par for the course.

Yes, Head-Fi is "fun", but that doesn't mean we can say whatever we want, however we want. But beyond the social conventions of Head-Fi, there are also linguistic conventions. I submitted and submit again that sometimes Art doesn't say what he means. He claims to be stating preferences, but he seems to be making propositional, factual statements about headphones. Perhaps I don't understand English. Perhaps oarnura and others don't eithr. And if so, we apologize for our linguistic incompetence. But if there's a chance that Art could've been clearer, less ambiguous, then surely it's good that he try.

I've had to state my case several times already, and it appears to no avail. People just aren't listening. So I'm out.
post #86 of 141
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
of course, dinner is all set to go and actually feeling a bit guilty for not having baked this week, current fav has been a large bakewell tart but trying things other than cherry.
But I specifically requested a Strawberry Pavlova with a slightly chewier than normal meringue crust. I don't like Bakewell Tart. Get back in that kitchen and start whisking some egg whites
post #87 of 141
ahem i think you mean raspberry, strawberrys are too soft and gentle taste wise, get some fresh ripe raspberrys to give just a hint of sharpness and sweetness to contrast against the faintly sour cream and bland meringue
post #88 of 141
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Originally Posted by jonathanjong View Post
Yes, Head-Fi is "fun",
but that doesn't mean we can say whatever we want, however we want.
Well, maybe you should take note of your own 'ruling', since it didn't prevent you from saying whatever you wanted and however you wanted. Art's opinions were about an inanimate object - your opinions were personal and condescending. Big difference.
post #89 of 141
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
ahem i think you mean raspberry, strawberrys are too soft and gentle taste wise, get some fresh ripe raspberrys to give just a hint of sharpness and sweetness to contrast against the faintly sour cream and bland meringue
Excuse me - what are you doing out of the kitchen? Get whisking and go pick me some strawbs.
post #90 of 141
*wanders of to the kitchen mumbling the words strawberrys, philistine, tastebuds of a hyena
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