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post #46 of 189
That'll be my exact rig too... cannot wait. I'm on pre-order through Amazon UK.
post #47 of 189
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I'm already sick of the waiting now, it's going so slowly

And it's like there are more days to wait for it today than there were yesterday
post #48 of 189
Ha ha ha ha.... could it be that time is actually moving in reverse while the wait is taking place?

Another person anxiously awaiting the release too; hadn't seen this little write-up until searching today on Google for some reason.
http://jonchoo.blogspot.com/2009/01/...with-oled.html
post #49 of 189
is the "digital amp" part a genuine plus? or marketing ?

ie what are Sony's normal internal amps on their DAPS ? could they be digital anyway ?
post #50 of 189
Most definitely the real deal, and not marketing hype. Soozieq can field this one better.....
post #51 of 189
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is the "digital amp" part a genuine plus? or marketing ?

ie what are Sony's normal internal amps on their DAPS ? could they be digital anyway ?
The amp they're using in the new model isn't like anything else they've used previously in their portable daps as far as I know. The 'S Master Digital Amp' is something they use in their home stereo systems (and also in my Sony audio cradle), but that doesn't really help anyone guess what it's going to sound like. I'm assuming/hoping it will be an improvement, but I don't have a clue if it will be or not. All I know is that their models from the last couple of years, the 600/700/800/820 etc, have all sounded good, so the ZX has to sound at least as good... I hope. We'll just have to wait and see if it's hype or not, but I hype not and I hope not
post #52 of 189
thanks very much - very interesting

I hope it sounds amazing - if so I'll get one

that said I recently bought a Pioneer mid-end AV amp with digital amp stage .. and to be honest I didn't like the sound that much - but this is a very different beast so

mmm perhaps I should wait on getting that touch ... would go a long way towards the Sony

I personally LOVE the marble effect I think it looks very sleak


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The amp they're using in the new model isn't like anything else they've used previously in their portable daps as far as I know. The 'S Master Digital Amp' is something they use in their home stereo systems (and also in my Sony audio cradle), but that doesn't really help anyone guess what it's going to sound like. I'm assuming/hoping it will be an improvement, but I don't have a clue if it will be or not. All I know is that their models from the last couple of years, the 600/700/800/820 etc, have all sounded good, so the ZX has to sound at least as good... I hope. We'll just have to wait and see if it's hype or not, but I hype not and I hope not
post #53 of 189
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I recently bought a Pioneer mid-end AV amp with digital amp stage .. and to be honest I didn't like the sound that much - but this is a very different beast so
I really hope so. I'm not selling my Touch or A829 until I know for sure!

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I personally LOVE the marble effect I think it looks very sleak
I bought 'Stuff' magazine because they had a short review about it with some huge photos.

And in close up, the marble effect looked a lot like dandruff...
post #54 of 189
after your post I redid a search on google images for photos of the new unit

I was talking about the sides - I hadn't realised there was a similar effect on the front (and presumably rear) too

front looks a bit like someones dropped glitter on it !


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I really hope so. I'm not selling my Touch or A829 until I know for sure!


I bought 'Stuff' magazine because they had a short review about it with some huge photos.

And in close up, the marble effect looked a lot like dandruff...
post #55 of 189
the new amp im sure is good but there is no way to say if it will be better or worse than the old ones. my sony 829 holds up better in hardware tests than my 636 does though i prefer the 636 as it does not hiss nearly as badly.

it all comes down to this: if it sounds way different, the sq has to be messed up because improvement should sound only barely differently but should be noticeable. remember placebo.
post #56 of 189
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I'm already sick of the waiting now, it's going so slowly

And it's like there are more days to wait for it today than there were yesterday
Tell me about it, it's like waiting for a sweet video game system 360-PS3, or a Zelda game or MGS, GTA, GOW, Halo wars or God of war 3, ect , ect to be released,... That is if your a gamer Nothing is hyped as much as a big release game, and such a long lead time. Killzone 2 for example, announced 2005 I believe, and going to be on shelves at the end of this month.

The digital amp in this player is one of sony's high end ones. I have listened to many mini discs with digital amps. Sometimes they sound good, sometimes they sound awesome. Digital amps use less juice, but require digital filters to shape the sound and most don't need output caps- from what I understand. The last sony player I listened to with a "higher" end (faster sampling rate) digital amp was the mini disc recorder RH1 . It sounded amazing, so heres hoping.

The iqube is an example of a class d amp done right. I don't think any of sony's previous daps have used class d amps. Just their MD units. But I really think that in most cases the class d amps are just better at heat and power management, not a marked sonic improvement over a class A a/b amp.

That being said, I do think sony's daps have been getting better sounding with every gen. Less noise and more clarity, with their signature beefy-bassy slightly V shaped/forward sound sig. The new s630/s730 tested pretty flat across the spectrum with little variance and very low noise. Something I think older sony daps would have trouble with.


http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/produ...f_walkman.html
post #57 of 189
mmm well in 2 days time I'll be comparing my S639 to a new Fuze
post #58 of 189
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mmm well in 2 days time I'll be comparing my S639 to a new Fuze
Fuze/clip is one of my faves Although I prefer the more up front presentation and treble energy of the s639 with my new IE8s. The fuze has no dips or valleys from 20hz to 20khz with a simulated load and very low noise with sensitive iems, good stuff. I just bought another clip at walmart, they have the 8gig on sale for 49.99. I need to thin out some daps.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/produ...ansa_fuze.html

Look how low the frequency deviation is from 20 to 20. Of course these are just numbers, but you can see the player performs very good with a 30 ohm load.

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post #59 of 189
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Fuze/clip is one of my faves Although I prefer the more up front presentation and treble energy of the s639 with my new IE8s.
I bought the S639 when Argos were having a half-price sale, and I sold it the week after. I did like it, but I thought it sounded almost identical to my A808. Even though a few other people thought it sounded slightly better, I couldn't detect enough of a difference to warrant keeping it over my A829.

But the 808 is as bright-sounding to me as the S639, and the IE8 match really nicely with it. The one thing I prefer on the 829 is the bigger soundstage in comparison with all my other Sony daps. Not quite on a par with the Touch 2G, but it's still good. The only 'improvement' I'm looking for in the ZX, is a bigger soundstage, the Touch has really spoiled me for that. As for hiss, it's never bothered me, it disappears as soon as music plays so I can live with it. We all have difference tolerances to different things, and I can cope with hiss.
post #60 of 189
soozieq - was it the S639 from ARgos - I don't remember it being in the half price sale ?

the S729 was though ?
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