Please refrain from personal attacks, folks.
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11/19/09 at 5:28pm
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Wow, quite testy, no? All I said was the IE8 bass is not demonstrably better than the W3 in terms of bass quality. For quantity, yes the IE8 has more. Your comment was not that specific. Not sure why you have a problem with a counter opinion? I heard them both, and owned them both at the same time as well. In fact, I A/B them quite often, and decided the W3 was a better IEM on balance, for my tastes, mega bass or no mega bass on the IE8. Do you disagree that bass quality and quantity can be too very different things?
Talk about presumptuous, all I did was disagree and say I heard things differently. No hostility in my post, no name calling, no adolescent rants. I just believe the W3 bass is not vastly inferior to the IE8 in quality, but the Senn does certainly have more bass quantity (and I agree with Kobayashi on that). I have a right to post here about my opinion, even if it doesn't match yours. Is there some rule against that? Methinks thou dost protest too much, in fact. Way over the top. And, I used Larry's description because it is so much more eloquent and descriptive than anything I could post, and it certainly is more detailed than your "W3 bass doesn't compare to the IE8" comment. If you are talking about quantity, I'll give you that. If you are talking about quality, I disagree. In my opinion, and I have a right to mine as much as you have to yours, the W3 bass quality can match the IE8. Now, as far as the IE8 v. the X10, given a choice, I would keep the IE8. As I explained, I only kept the X10 to give to my wife, or I would have sold it as well. So in the words of Sgt. Hulka, "Lighten up, Francis." We're just talking about headphones here, right? |
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Excellent thinking. Why limit your search to two $300+ phones, when there are a few others. Between the two IE8 and X10), for bass impact, both quality and quantity, I would say the IE8 is your best choice. But for bass quality, there are other phones to consider. Just read over the W3 threads, the UM3X threads. I will say the W3s have mixed reviews, but the folks who like them, really like them. The accentuate both treble and bass, but the mids don't suffer. Believe me, withthe right tips, the W3 bass has impact. Maybe not the volume as the IE8, but again, why limit your search to two IEMs. Good luck, and if you have any questions about the W3, feel free. I only posted HPA's review because it is the definitive W3 review.
There have been a few HFers who have sold their IE8s and kept their W3s, and of course, it goes both ways. Not an easy decision/search. I just figured when you said basshead, you meant you liked bass, but wasn't sure what you meant by it. Glad that the W3s made it to the discussion. I don't have the UM3X, but would love to try them out too. |
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I had the X10 was very disappointed with the bass. The bass seems on the same level as the treble. Trust me I got a good seal and it much more bass than my Shure e4c. The music has no layer, they are very comfortable however. Now I am using the sennheiser ie7 and is amazed by the bass and how warm and smooth the sound it produce. if you want to stick with klipsch, i recommend the Custom 3, which will offer more bass than the X10
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I know you are big fans for W3. When it comes to bass impact, you can not beat IE8, not if you are recommending 10 pro to compare with, which seems have better deep bass.
W3 is not in the same level as IE8, at least with normal audience, not everyone like HPA can tell nuance difference. To be honest, if you want bass impact, just go for IE8, turn bass knob to max, you will be in heaven. Can UM3X could match for bass quantity,my answer is no,but it does not mean UM3X don't have enough bass for my taste. |
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I came across this thread in my search for IEMs...I'm surprised there really hasn't been talk about atrios...many rave about that bass...what do you guys think?
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I own the IE8's , very clean ,nice bass with the knob on max and comply eartips, great soundstage and detail, but I still think my UE SuperFi EB's blow them away for overall bass. The IE8's are new I will let them warm up a bit the EB's really are awsome if your a bass lover. They are not muddy at all like lot of snobs say they are just haters of UE in general . I own alot of Westone, Sennheiser and UE products and the most impressive bass is The SuperFi EB by far..I listen to hard rock and prog rock so It also has alot to do with what your trying to get out of a IEM also. So opinions will vary based on musical taste. Sabbath , Zeppelin, Tool, Porcupine Tree, and Pink Floyd even Steely Dan sound great on the EB's ( awsome on the IE8's) So its up to how much you wanna spend and if if your looking for quantity of bass..UE Super Fi EB's are the way to go. Overall sharpness, and best detail and nice clean bass the IE8's.
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I had the ie8's and I was super happy with them, the bass was wonderful, but the broke. I ie8's are pricey so i went with the x10s's and they dont have enough bass! Go with the IE8's!