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post #121 of 129
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post
The headphones sound very different right? Like the HD600 is not also dark and mellow as the HD650?
HD600 is not as dark and it has that crispiness that HD650 don't have. Also, it's not as mellow and smooth as HD650. Some people find that as a good thing in audio while others think it's boring. I personally think they both are fantastic phones but, to me, HD600 had an edge on classical music so that's why I stuck with it. The vocals sound heavenly on HD650s, IMO.
post #122 of 129
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HD600 is not as dark and it has that crispiness that HD650 don't have. Also, it's not as mellow and smooth as HD650. Some people find that as a good thing in audio while others think it's boring. I personally think they both are fantastic phones but, to me, HD600 had an edge on classical music so that's why I stuck with it. The vocals sound heavenly on HD650s, IMO.
I have decided on the HD600. Now I have to find a seller that sells it for the lowest price, doesn't have to be an authorized reseller, but still very reliable. And they have to ship to Canada with USPS, not UPS or Fedex. I'm looking at BH photovideo.
post #123 of 129
Goit, excellent choice. You won't be disappointed.
post #124 of 129
I have a well burned-in pair of HD650 here on loan from another head-fier for our meet tomorrow (with the silver fabric if that matters). Today I compared it to my HD600 (also silver fabric), both running balanced off my single power amp with APureSound V3 cable, and I still prefer the HD600 as my choice to own.

The HD600 are still more neutral and crisper/detailed and more alive sounding, and I just don't get that with the HD650. Sorry. This is my second time around with HD650 in the house, last time for a month before I sold the HD650. I am pretty sure I wont be buying any - especially since I am #7 on the list for HD800 at Headroom.
post #125 of 129
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post


Is the reason that the HD650 being "darker" because of the dip in the mid-high frequencies? Because I do find my HD555s to be a bit too dark and not showing the textures as much as I liked. Sometimes when the sound is supposed to be colorful, I just don't feel it with the HD555s. And the HD555s have a dip in that region as well.

That graphic tells very much the truth about the differences between them.Obviously the Hd650 sounds darker:less highs and more bass.It doesn't look like a huge difference in the image,but it's more than enough to make people disagree about which one is better...for my ears the Hd600 is much better balanced(it would be even better with a tiny bit less midbass,but the impact is sooo good that I can live with it) and considerably airier.
post #126 of 129
Some say that the HD650 has slow bass...This is something I do not understand. I find them to have very well textured, tight, punchy bass. If some people say they need fast attacking bass, I would imagine that they would want to add more air to it or simply decrease it if the HD650 are not for them...(SA5000, AD700 etc)

I am coming from the Denon D2000 which has bloated, slow bass imo. If I compare the HD650 and the D2000, the HD650 perfects the bass department imo.
post #127 of 129
Both HD650 and HD600 do not have a very fast bass. DUring "normal" music listening, you will not find that out - it only makes a difference with very "pratty" music.
post #128 of 129
I have enjoyed my HD600 for over a year and just got the HD650. As other have stated HD600 are somewhat brighter whereas HD650 have more bass.
My first impressions:
- On some tracks you can't hear any difference or really barely but on others it's very apparent. Some music styles make it more ovious but the mastering seems to play its part.
- HD600 are more consistent, they deliver on any track
- HD650 can sometimes sound really better and sometimes much worse than HD600
- After a few hours it feels good to put the HD600 down to rest my ears whereas if it was not for the clamping I could listen to HD650 for much longer.

With blues or rock, the lead guitar has more bite on HD600 so that's what you tend to follow but it's more of an ensemble on HD650 so your focus shifts during the listening. Hard to say what I prefer here, I like the guitar more on HD600 but the balance is better on HD650.
Female voices can be too harsh with HD600 at times but otherwise I find both excel with voices.
With electronica and reggae it's a mixed bag. Mostly the extra bass brings the fullness that's often lacking with HD600 but on some recordings the HD650 "detaches" the bass from the rest and it's very detrimental to the balance of the track, making it sound unnatural.
With classical music I'll give a slight edge to HD650 on symphonies for the fuller approach but for chamber music/solos I prefer HD600, the bit of brightness injects more life to the recording. Opera voices are also more to my liking on HD600 as I enjoy them with more intensity. HD650 can be somewhat too mellow.

Honestly I like them both. A lot. Don't know which one I'm going to keep yet, it's a tough choice.
post #129 of 129
sfmatt, totally agree with your views, especially on the types of music that work best with each HD.

The 650 is better for choral music and organ, perhaps the best I've heard for this genre of any headphone I know. It really captures the sense of space, atmosphere, mystery.
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