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post #106 of 129
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I feel bad looking at Larry's post as I realize I have been dumping on Apure. Hey, if you like silver then silver it is, that is why I keep telling everyone "Cables Make a Difference" and just because you cant hear it doesn't mean I cant. Judge with your ears and try to build a system that full of components that complement each other in a way that is best for you. Use your ears and ditch all the graphs and such. I chose as well as I could by reading constantly and then the other half of the equation was tuning and now I love my rig man!!!
Yeah, and the debates we keep having regarding cables spring from my inexperience with them. With this new system I just took Larry's advice on most of the items and it turned out great and I see no reason to get other cables to try. To this end I don't have any other cables to try against my silver cables to even see if there is a difference. I suppose I could easily be in blissful ignorance, but when it is also the best sound I've ever heard and a sound I can't even imagine being better than it is I feel satisfied I have a 'end of the road' system I can be happy with forever.

At present the only reason for me to try other gear is to get a wide variety of experiences, not subtle ones like cables typically are stated to give. A minor side reason is physical comfort. While the HD600 are indeed very comfortable and I can wear them for hours, I would prefer eventually having a phone that sounds as good or better that has larger openings on the pads because currently my ears touch the edges of the pads and while it doesn't hurt it is distracting. I hear the new HD800 solve this as well as other phones. Really the only phones I've even considered buying at this point first had to pass the 'close to HD600' test then the next criteria was 'are they more comfortable'. I will never own a supra aural main headphone, but maybe could have one for a different sound flavor every once in a while. I tried the Audio Technica ATH-70 electrolets at the Dallas meet and was surprised with the comfort from the supra aural phones, and at the same time they were Stax like in signature and close enough to HD600 to be interesting. Too bad they are so rare. They are cheap too.
post #107 of 129
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Originally Posted by olblueyez View Post
Very true. Its funny when I started this journey I thought of myself as a detail freak and now I realize if the bass isnt perfect then the rest cant be perfect. It is possible to get a nice bass line with plenty of detail though, just takes a lot of anal system matching to get it though.
I was opposite completely. I had the subwoofers in the car's trunk and the big bass EQ curves going on. I had stacks of 'Bass Syndicate' type cds. Thinking back on it is embarrasing, but I've since realized the beauty of a flat EQ and neutral equipment.
post #108 of 129
I think when I was younger you just didn't ever hear detailed equipment like you can now and so I ws drawn to that kind of sound. Now I want to feel the bass and I want something smoooooooooth!!! That is why the 701's had to go, it was like having an axe buried in my head!
post #109 of 129
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Originally Posted by olblueyez View Post
So your saying cables do make a difference huh? I owned the V3 as well and it sounds terrible, I sent it back to Alex. Its tipped and thin and ruins the bass.
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Originally Posted by olblueyez View Post
I think when I was younger you just didn't ever hear detailed equipment like you can now and so I ws drawn to that kind of sound. Now I want to feel the bass and I want something smoooooooooth!!! That is why the 701's had to go, it was like having an axe buried in my head!
Hey, we do agree on something after all.

On the other hand, there is an AKG K702 here on loan for our head-fi meet this weekend that sounds better than the K701 that I owned for a week in 2007.
post #110 of 129
Yeah, I have zero tolerance for people telling me the bass on the 701's is natural and the over all sound is more realistic and not etched, blah, blah, blah.

Flame On People.
post #111 of 129
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Originally Posted by olblueyez View Post
So your saying cables do make a difference huh? I owned the V3 as well and it sounds terrible, I sent it back to Alex. Its tipped and thin and ruins the bass.
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Yeah, I have zero tolerance for people telling me the bass on the 701's is natural and the over all sound is more realistic and not etched, blah, blah, blah.

Flame On People.
They remind me of the AD2000 that I had to sell also.
post #112 of 129
Hey Larry while you are around, can you comment on the AD700 and SR202? I keep recommending these AD700 based on what I've read and I'm starting to think I need to buy a pair to hear for myself so I know what I'm talking about.

The SR202 I've heard was with a SRM313 owned by KTM here on the forums. I was nearly entranced by the speed, detail and sound stage. The bass had an otherworldly feeling to it, but I've thought about picking up the combo just for a change of pace to keep along with my HD600/MKVI.
post #113 of 129
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post
Hey Larry while you are around, can you comment on the AD700 and SR202? I keep recommending these AD700 based on what I've read and I'm starting to think I need to buy a pair to hear for myself so I know what I'm talking about.

The SR202 I've heard was with a SRM313 owned by KTM here on the forums. I was nearly entranced by the speed, detail and sound stage. The bass had an otherworldly feeling to it, but I've thought about picking up the combo just for a change of pace to keep along with my HD600/MKVI.
I haven't heard either one of those - only vintage Lambdas and the closed A900 - which are polar opposites. Ask donunus what he thinks of HD600/Gilmore Lite vs SR-2050A stax combo.
post #114 of 129
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I listened to my favorite cd on the HD650, it was way too dark, too quiet. The sound sounded like powder, kind of grainy yet soft, kind of like power being blown by the wind. All pieces, even the bright ones, got turned into some romantic and moody effect. They probably didn't amplify it properly, but that's all they have and I think that even with amplification it will just be a bit louder and more detailed, the color of the sound won't change.

The HD600 isn't like that at all right?
post #115 of 129
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post
I listened to my favorite cd on the HD650, it was way too dark, too quiet. The sound sounded like powder, kind of grainy yet soft, kind of like power being blown by the wind. All pieces, even the bright ones, got turned into some romantic and moody effect. They probably didn't amplify it properly, but that's all they have and I think that even with amplification it will just be a bit louder and more detailed, the color of the sound won't change.

The HD600 isn't like that at all right?
There you go! Now you've heard it for yourself, and are in a better place to decide from.
post #116 of 129
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For those of you who have both the HD600 and HD650, does the HD600 sound all dark and depressing too?
post #117 of 129
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post
I listened to my favorite cd on the HD650, it was way too dark, too quiet. The sound sounded like powder, kind of grainy yet soft, kind of like power being blown by the wind. All pieces, even the bright ones, got turned into some romantic and moody effect. They probably didn't amplify it properly, but that's all they have and I think that even with amplification it will just be a bit louder and more detailed, the color of the sound won't change.

The HD600 isn't like that at all right?
What amp are you using?
post #118 of 129
I've owned both the HD650 and the HD600 on several occasions, with Cardas, Headphile and RAL recables. The best I ever heard the HD650 sound, single-ended, was with the Darkvoice 337 (and RAL recable); but, good as it was, I've always ultimately preferred the HD600 because of its less dark, more neutral and balanced presentation.
post #119 of 129
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
I've owned both the HD650 and the HD600 on several occasions, with Cardas, Headphile and RAL recables. The best I ever heard the HD650 sound, single-ended, was with the Darkvoice 337 (and RAL recable); but, good as it was, I've always ultimately preferred the HD600 because of its less dark, more neutral and balanced presentation.
The headphones sound very different right? Like the HD600 is not also dark and mellow as the HD650?
post #120 of 129
Clearly they were not amped properly in the least. You should not use that as a judgement. They are darker, but you said "quiet." That is a sign of improper amplification. You should go back and ask if you can try them with an amp that can power them.
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